P8 photo
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Pitlamp
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I don't think P8 was discovered till 1964 (by the British Speleological Association).
Is that file name mentioning 1950s yours (given when the image was scanned)? If so then it might be worth changing to something more appropriate, to avoid confusing folk in future. If it's information that came with the original image though, this may cast doubt on the accuracy of the rest of the information with the image.
It's possible that P8 was already a dig by the 1950s but I can't imagine that such a carefully made lid would have been constructed by that stage (i.e. until they knew they'd found a major cave in 1964).
Is that file name mentioning 1950s yours (given when the image was scanned)? If so then it might be worth changing to something more appropriate, to avoid confusing folk in future. If it's information that came with the original image though, this may cast doubt on the accuracy of the rest of the information with the image.
It's possible that P8 was already a dig by the 1950s but I can't imagine that such a carefully made lid would have been constructed by that stage (i.e. until they knew they'd found a major cave in 1964).
Mrs Trellis
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The V guard helmet is early/mid '60's. In the '50's it would have been a miner's compressed cardboard helmet and most likely a carbide lamp.
I first descended P8 on an Eldon probationary meet with Jim Kinsman, Wacker, Soppy, Geoff Dobson and Grotty (also probationer) before going to Uni so I guess it would be '65 (Woolly Bully by Sam the Sham & the Pharoahs was #1 iirc). I remember shoring but no lid but then it was a long while ago.
I'm meeting Wacker on Sunday in't George so I'll print it out and ask him.
I first descended P8 on an Eldon probationary meet with Jim Kinsman, Wacker, Soppy, Geoff Dobson and Grotty (also probationer) before going to Uni so I guess it would be '65 (Woolly Bully by Sam the Sham & the Pharoahs was #1 iirc). I remember shoring but no lid but then it was a long while ago.
I'm meeting Wacker on Sunday in't George so I'll print it out and ask him.
Mrs Trellis
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It most likely is and probably late '60's judging by the hair length, helmet and NIFE cell (?).
shotlighter
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Just had a close look at the battery in the OP.
It's of the old " Oldham R Type" type, though similar looking ones were made by Youle and Exide IIRC. Also it's got the old end entry battery top on it.
These were still around in the early 80's and later, with the guts replaced by F cells.
Can't quite make out the head piece but dont think it's an Oldham - Exide possibly?
It's of the old " Oldham R Type" type, though similar looking ones were made by Youle and Exide IIRC. Also it's got the old end entry battery top on it.
These were still around in the early 80's and later, with the guts replaced by F cells.
Can't quite make out the head piece but dont think it's an Oldham - Exide possibly?
shotlighter
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Could by why SWMBO calls me an OLD goat perhapsKaren S said:Shows what I know!!Thanks Shotlighter. I'm not surprised you have a better idea than me!
Mrs Trellis
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Is the person in the first photo female or perhaps a boy?
The helmet is a V guard - you can see the V at the rear of the crown. He/she/it is also wearing ganzies & boiler suit or anorak jacket (ripped sleeve) I think which confirms the mid-1960's date.
In the 2nd photo the caver is wearing a wetsuit - one of the first non-BSA by the looks of it (no yellow tape seams and high collar).
The helmet is a V guard - you can see the V at the rear of the crown. He/she/it is also wearing ganzies & boiler suit or anorak jacket (ripped sleeve) I think which confirms the mid-1960's date.
In the 2nd photo the caver is wearing a wetsuit - one of the first non-BSA by the looks of it (no yellow tape seams and high collar).
