Dr Jacksons
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hoehlenforscher
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eeeeeeeeeeee brings back nightmares that name does 
been to the end twice but that was 20 years ago so it may have been extended?
Yoga hole was pretty straightforward if you are bendy enough but a bugger if you're not. Silty crawls at the start were completely blocked last time we went there.
Can't remember a rock bridge but I can't remember a lot from that period of my life 8)
been to the end twice but that was 20 years ago so it may have been extended?
Yoga hole was pretty straightforward if you are bendy enough but a bugger if you're not. Silty crawls at the start were completely blocked last time we went there.
Can't remember a rock bridge but I can't remember a lot from that period of my life 8)
bubba
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From what i remember of the very distant past when i was there, Yoga Hole involves a big natural thread atop vertical(ish) tube into a pool of water. I squeezed under the thread, then sort of sat up and brought my legs underneath me (hence the "yoga" i presume) and then dropped feet first down the tube. I was slimmer then but it wasn't anything nasty - we turned back at the rock bridge, so can't help you there
underground
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I managed it Sam, it's fine - getting back out is more a case of correct positioning than owt else....
As for the rock bridge, I can't remember - we seemed to reach a vertical pitch and didn't have any tackle...
As for the rock bridge, I can't remember - we seemed to reach a vertical pitch and didn't have any tackle...
bubba
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I remember doing one traverse somewhere - it had an in-situ rope and crossed a very steep muddly slope - don't remember it being awful but i guess if the rope wasn't there things would have been different - of course i may be getting mixed up as this was almost 20 years ago
I'm sure you'll be fine just to do the climb Sam - "very good climber" in the old COTP sense probably means 4c or something; it's not going to be something really hard. Or i guess you could drag a pad, chalk-bucket and boots in
I'm sure you'll be fine just to do the climb Sam - "very good climber" in the old COTP sense probably means 4c or something; it's not going to be something really hard. Or i guess you could drag a pad, chalk-bucket and boots in
T
T pot 1
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Dr Jacksons is a pussy of a cave
getting to the end requires a little fore thought (the traverse across to the rock bridge is rigged but with the corlene ropes installed by the PCC) these are mega unsafe) As for bolting myself & T Revel installed new spits
the way across to the rock bridge is down then up then down & up again by the leader who then belays the traverse for the rest to follow
easy when youve done it once or thrice
just be aware that rescue from the last sump (very awkward to access) or indeed the whole cave would be difficult & protracted
Why not try the connection between Dr Jackson & Perryfoot cave that Tony & I made 1999
now thats a real toughie
T pot
getting to the end requires a little fore thought (the traverse across to the rock bridge is rigged but with the corlene ropes installed by the PCC) these are mega unsafe) As for bolting myself & T Revel installed new spits
the way across to the rock bridge is down then up then down & up again by the leader who then belays the traverse for the rest to follow
easy when youve done it once or thrice
just be aware that rescue from the last sump (very awkward to access) or indeed the whole cave would be difficult & protracted
Why not try the connection between Dr Jackson & Perryfoot cave that Tony & I made 1999
now thats a real toughie
T pot
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Dave H
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T pot 1 said:
SamT
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Top trip - certainly packs a lot in.
Mostly tight crawls - Very interesing and technical squeezes (yoga hole - I had to *actually* think about it for a change) thought provoking rigging, technical back and footing traverses etc.
It has to be said that the descriptions in COTHP are not wildly accurate - especially when it comes to pitches. I'd say Ian Barkers Classic Caves is slightly better.
All the rigging and insitue gear is rather manky at best. Adds to the alpine feel to the trip.
I think jules is going to write a trip report which will flesh out the details.
Mostly tight crawls - Very interesing and technical squeezes (yoga hole - I had to *actually* think about it for a change) thought provoking rigging, technical back and footing traverses etc.
It has to be said that the descriptions in COTHP are not wildly accurate - especially when it comes to pitches. I'd say Ian Barkers Classic Caves is slightly better.
All the rigging and insitue gear is rather manky at best. Adds to the alpine feel to the trip.
I think jules is going to write a trip report which will flesh out the details.
T
T pot 1
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Just replied to Sam T
but forgot to copy n paste to the forum have asked him to paste it for me
Just a few other notes
the way to the last sump is after the last traverse i.e the Chasm, the passage down to the sump is on the left, but is hard to find, you are looking for a tight rift maybe 1' wide and now more than 2' high if you look into it, it looks like it won't go because of a calcite boss, here you have to do a bit of a maneuver, turn left, turn sharp right, twist down on your front and then try and find some hand holes to go down the rest of the boss, at the bottom is a small beach with the sup in front of you
best of luck getting back to the main passage
Another point of interest by the way is its been stated that the cave ends in a series of muddy crawls, it does if the hydro phreatic nature of the cave has been in evidence in very wet weather, it the will be not possible to reach the ninth chamber this is because the passage a short descending then sharply ascending passage after the Chasm fills with shale lumps but it is possible to dig this out easily in a time to get to the ninth
oh & by the way if you climb up the roof choke in the ninth and inspect the rubble, yes rubble you can find evidence of T owd mans shot holes in it
this is because you are very close to Coalpithole Rake
maybe theres more to be found but its one hell of a digging trip
T pot
but forgot to copy n paste to the forum have asked him to paste it for me
Just a few other notes
the way to the last sump is after the last traverse i.e the Chasm, the passage down to the sump is on the left, but is hard to find, you are looking for a tight rift maybe 1' wide and now more than 2' high if you look into it, it looks like it won't go because of a calcite boss, here you have to do a bit of a maneuver, turn left, turn sharp right, twist down on your front and then try and find some hand holes to go down the rest of the boss, at the bottom is a small beach with the sup in front of you
best of luck getting back to the main passage
Another point of interest by the way is its been stated that the cave ends in a series of muddy crawls, it does if the hydro phreatic nature of the cave has been in evidence in very wet weather, it the will be not possible to reach the ninth chamber this is because the passage a short descending then sharply ascending passage after the Chasm fills with shale lumps but it is possible to dig this out easily in a time to get to the ninth
oh & by the way if you climb up the roof choke in the ninth and inspect the rubble, yes rubble you can find evidence of T owd mans shot holes in it
this is because you are very close to Coalpithole Rake
maybe theres more to be found but its one hell of a digging trip
T pot
SamT
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t pots post...
Reckon we did reach the 9th chamber - traverse over the top of the chasm...up and down some silty crawls into a nicely sculptered chamber, low crawls off closed down quite quickly - climb up a rift on the left that seemed to draft quite strongly. didnt climb up it far enough to see rubble.
I believe it would be perfectly possible to carry cylinders through the cave - I just dont think it would be possible to descend yoga hole *wearing* them.
I distincly remember the washing up bowl feature - I washed my wellys it !!!
I'd quite like to do another trip in there. look at the connection to perry foot. and also scope that crawl - I think I did spy something at foot level, with a bit of rope in it somewhere.
Reckon we did reach the 9th chamber - traverse over the top of the chasm...up and down some silty crawls into a nicely sculptered chamber, low crawls off closed down quite quickly - climb up a rift on the left that seemed to draft quite strongly. didnt climb up it far enough to see rubble.
I believe it would be perfectly possible to carry cylinders through the cave - I just dont think it would be possible to descend yoga hole *wearing* them.
I distincly remember the washing up bowl feature - I washed my wellys it !!!
I'd quite like to do another trip in there. look at the connection to perry foot. and also scope that crawl - I think I did spy something at foot level, with a bit of rope in it somewhere.
T
T pot 1
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If you go in on monday have look at the upstream sump its after Yoga Hole about half way along the hading rift just before the washing up bowl
with dry conditions like this it may be possible to dig it we think that this sump maybe a long type of duck
have a look, tell me what you think
T pot
with dry conditions like this it may be possible to dig it we think that this sump maybe a long type of duck
have a look, tell me what you think
T pot
