thing is, some bloomin mancs uni lads obviously dont read cavetalk! so no, we had to share! funnily enough i was sat talking one of the manc guys saying that these bloomin pull thru's have been a pain to get working chunter chunter blah blah eat my shorts if it actually works sort of thing.....and bingo first time! up and through! anyway the trip will have to be revisited cos my mate cant read and well, what a surprise the 5m pitch was past north chamber. did poke my head into the squeeze before oxlow aven. i need to lose weight i think...not in as desperate hurry as i was to try the connection!!