Greetings from the USA! Does anybody have any experience using non-rack descenders for drops over 150m? I wouldn't be too keen on doing a drop of that size on my Simple or Stop. I've recently discovered the Troll Allp Pro Tech and the SAR A&B descenders which look promising, but very little is written about them.
Descender for Long Drops
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Joe90
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I have done quite a lot of long drops, and I don't just mean the nasty festival loos.
I would suggest either the Petzl ID, it's capable of what you want and handles very nicely too whilst being versatile enough to have plenty of uses. Or if you want a device a little lighter with a few less of the safety features but similar performance then the Petzl Rig is probably the best way to go.
I have both and tend to use the ID for a lot of rigging and hauling / in the rescue bag. It's also what I give to people with more limited experience due to the added safety bits. I tend to use it RIG for myself.
Hope that helps a little.
Joe
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I would suggest either the Petzl ID, it's capable of what you want and handles very nicely too whilst being versatile enough to have plenty of uses. Or if you want a device a little lighter with a few less of the safety features but similar performance then the Petzl Rig is probably the best way to go.
I have both and tend to use the ID for a lot of rigging and hauling / in the rescue bag. It's also what I give to people with more limited experience due to the added safety bits. I tend to use it RIG for myself.
Hope that helps a little.
Joe
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langcliffe
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Alex said:
I thought that the 100 metres maximum was only associated with the Stop's use in rescue evacuation?
Mark Wright
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EN341A is the rescue descender standard the Stop conforms to and the 100m maximum relates to it getting too hot if you descend at a constant descent rate of 1m / second which the standard specifies.
Before the introduction into industry of the ID and Rig descenders, the rope access Industry never reported any problems with using Stops on considerably longer drops than 100m. I?ve used Stops on +300m drops without any issues other than hand cramp.
Mark
Before the introduction into industry of the ID and Rig descenders, the rope access Industry never reported any problems with using Stops on considerably longer drops than 100m. I?ve used Stops on +300m drops without any issues other than hand cramp.
Mark
langcliffe
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Mark Wright said:
Thanks for clarifying - I thought that it was something like that.
Kenilworth
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Hey Phillip, are you doing Ellisons, or a bridge or cliff or something?
Hey Kenilworth, have we met? I'm trying to see if there is a device that can replace a rack for long drops in the USA, including Fantastic Pit in Ellison's and Surprise in Fern. Maybe the big pits in Mexico, but that seems a long shot.
How fast can you rappel on the Petzl Rig? I'm accustomed to the adjustability of racks, and I'm hoping to find a device that can give a similar experience.
How fast can you rappel on the Petzl Rig? I'm accustomed to the adjustability of racks, and I'm hoping to find a device that can give a similar experience.
Kenilworth
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vpi451 said:
Why?
mattajperry
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What about a Fig 8 ?
langcliffe
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paul said:
I once did a 168 m descent on hawser laid rope with a figure of eight. Going down wasn't too bad, but I thought I was going to be sick when coming back up!
