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Guscott pot - three digs
« on: February 22, 2017, 01:52:20 pm »
Having noticed that people like hearing about other people's digs - I know I do I decided to tell you how these digs are progressing...
Guscott pot opened in 2012 is strategically placed between Goyden and the Aquamole Series. The former already linked with Manchester Hole and the latter already linked with New Goyden pot. There are three digs being pushed in Guscott at present. The first is Ralf Inlet which is still heading up valley. A recent extension was found on a solo dig (amazing achievement given its tight nature and very muddy dig) by David Stubley and a planned trip on March 12th aims to push further. By right it is an inlet likely to swing west back from under the hillside to the river bed above and then go vertical to the pot but you never know maybe a connection also to one of the avens in the Labyrinth of Goyden pot below. The second dig is a trip through a tight tube and shale chamber in Test of Faith passage. The dig is in clean washed narrow vadose passage blocked by a large boulder. The view beyond the boulder is of a bedding half full of gravel and sound of water cascading beyond. This dig is less than 30m from the North choke extension in the Aquamole Series. The club aims to push the dig this year and make the connection. The through trip from Guscott to Aquamole Series and then onto New Goyden exiting via Thrope pot will be quite a through trip. Finally going off the entrance chamber of Guscott pot is a choke taking a small stream. This has been intermittently pushed over a few years. A dig not for the faint hearted with no solid walls and so requiring scaffolding to descend the choke. Recently it has broken through to a solid wall on a fault (at approx. 14m depth with Goyden river being at approx. 25m depth) and progress is now easier and faster. Another reason it has progressed faster is that ULSA have helped dig this a couple of times. The water was assumed to go to the inlet between Goyden sumps 5 and 6 but at present is still heading for sump 4 (2m long) separating Bridge Hall from Goyden 5.  So all in all Guscott pot is looking good for a breakthrough this year.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2017, 01:59:13 pm »
Don't forget to keep a look out for Brian Kerr.  He must be down there somewhere.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2017, 02:06:05 pm »
Don't forget to keep a look out for Brian Kerr.  He must be down there somewhere.
Well I wish he would pull his finger out and help us dig.......there again I would freak out!
Reminds me once when I was solo digging in low passage off Mud Hall I heard a noise behind me. I turned to see two red eyes and breathing. I nearly died...what's this the beast of Goyden...just then more noise and then light to reveal a dog! The dog often caves with this guy and has a habit of going ahead in the dark.

Back on subject...trying to add photos for this thread.......struggling

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2017, 02:55:31 pm »
all of us from ULSA have really enjoyed collaborating on this dig, we've had a lot of new members joining recently so have been a bit pre-occupied with that side of things but once it settles down again then we'll be back for more :)
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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2017, 03:23:45 pm »
Kevin Francis in Guscott main passage


Chris Fox at the end of Ralf Inlet before the lit tunnel behind was dug through to further short extension


Ben Jerry Cowans coming out of the dig leading towards a link with North Choke of the Aquamole Series



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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2017, 04:13:45 pm »
Thanks so much for posting  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:  ;D

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2017, 07:24:05 pm »
Finally going off the entrance chamber of Guscott pot is a choke taking a small stream. This has been intermittently pushed over a few years. A dig not for the faint hearted with no solid walls and so requiring scaffolding to descend the choke. Recently it has broken through to a solid wall on a fault (at approx. 14m depth with Goyden river being at approx. 25m depth) and progress is now easier and faster. Another reason it has progressed faster is that ULSA have helped dig this a couple of times.

Personally I like this one!

I hope you're getting consistent numbers to enable pushing. :)

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2017, 10:03:10 pm »
Thanks for posting, it all sounds promising. Is this the preamble to regular updates on UKcaving? I'm hoping so!

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2017, 10:24:30 pm »
I hope so too! Can't get much colder than 2 weeks ago!

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2017, 10:58:27 pm »


Personally I like this one!

I hope you're getting consistent numbers to enable pushing. :)

Always welcome and thanks for the your valuable input - we were impressed.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2017, 09:30:51 am »
The BSD do also have a facebook page which is quickly updated after every dig session.

Feel free to like it to get updates and see the recent history of the digs...

https://www.facebook.com/Black-Sheep-Diggers-381281961884165/
« Last Edit: February 23, 2017, 10:43:45 am by MarkS, Reason: Fixed URL »

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2017, 09:19:41 am »
SURVEY A SURPRISE RESULT
We have just surveyed the choke dig at Guscott. It showed that we have not moved a short way south as expected but back on itself and now slightly north of the entrance. We would have written off the result suspecting errors from all the scaffolding around except for the way it lines up perfectly with the fault above. At the dig face we are facing the faulted wall, perpendicular to it, as it hades away from us at about 45 deg. This lines up with the 45 deg hading fault of the entrance passage and chamber above. This is excellent news as it keeps the dig up valley and still east of Goyden 5. The data also shows it to be at 17m deep (bit deeper than we thought) and Goyden 5 is about 25-27m deep. Although its getting to be a quite a depth to remove rocks all the way out it is worth it as could give us access to Goyden 5 and Bridge Hall - so well worth it. We do though need help hint hint ULSA team and anyone else who fancies partnering with us on this project.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2017, 08:39:55 pm »
Goyden man.... Do you have a regular weekly digging day or night ?

...... whereby any individual or team who feel inspired through  reading your posts, may have that time available and  could therefore think about contacting you...
Richard.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2017, 09:58:10 pm »
Goyden man.... Do you have a regular weekly digging day or night ?

...... whereby any individual or team who feel inspired through  reading your posts, may have that time available and  could therefore think about contacting you...
Richard.

We typically have a Thursday team and also a Saturday team - I say team in each case 2-3 people. People can contact me by PM on this site. There is a plan to dig on Sunday March 12th 2pm onwards (probably for about 3-4 hours and also Saturday March 18th 10am onwards for probably about 5-6 hours. People welcome to just turn up.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2017, 09:23:01 am »
GUSCOTT POT - STREAM CHOKE DIG
Report from Ralf Guscott
18th March 2017 Jason Martin and Ralf met up to dig Guscott choke.
First we took the 10 foot piece of scaffolding and the farmer's son kindly cut it into 3 pieces
Ralf put scaffolding in until we ran out of swivel clips then Martin dug whilst Ralf went to the mine to collect more swivels.
Martin was passing out boulder after boulder.
Ralf went back in and put more scaffolding in .
Jason then dug. Stacking many boulders under the black boulders already there.
Jason made 4 to 5 foot depth and could clearly hear a stream below.
Ralf went in and decided we have hit a floor.
More scaffolding is now required and 3 boulders to smash up.
One large boulder fell out the wall further up the shaft that was too heavy to shift out. This is now perched on scaffolding above the dig.
Very good progress.
Even though Nidderdale was very wet and some flooding in some caves Guscott pot was very dry. No stream falling down the shaft and not much dripping in the usual places.

We are hoping for the start of horizontal passage now going south and north. South taking the stream to the airbell between Goyden sump 5 and 6. Divers noticed an inlet here. It's not been confirmed yet by dye testing. Also hoping for this horiziontal passage to go west/north to Goyden 5 and give us access to the impressive Bridge Hall. Between Goyden sump 6 and 7 five metres higher than the stream is an old choked phreatic way that we hope goes all the way between Frog pot and New Goyden pot. This dig in Guscott we hope is soon to intersect that level.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2017, 11:49:15 am »
GUSCOTT POT - STREAM CHOKE DIG
Report from Chris Fox
30th March 2017

The place was really wet with water running/trickling from lots of places. It was too wet to use our devices to bust the big boulders. Nick and Chris set about digging out the width of the dig at bit more to install more scaffolding and make for easier digging. There was a lot of slumping that made for hard work and interesting moments! Eventually we got sufficient scaffold in place to start building walls behind the scaffold. This nicely got rid of rocks without having to take them all the way out and stopped the slumping. To finish off we pulled some rocks away from the bottom of the dig including a big block to see into a small void. Here the stream flowed briefly level before sinking vertically. To the right of that removing other rocks rewarded us with a view of over a meter down along the faulted wall. What seemed like a solid floor was in fact not the case and the dig carries on straight down. This is not what we expected to find. Our assumption was to hit a horizontal level taking the water south to between Goyden sump 5&6. Instead it has been going a little bit north and now straight down. It still could turn south but would have to do that soon as running out of height - we have got quite deep now! We would prefer it carries on going down as that places us close to Goyden 5. The dig is easy going and hopefully we get a good turn out of helpers on April 8th for a big push - all welcome.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2017, 01:20:42 pm »
Will be on my way to digging under the hills of Spain that weekend. It's a pity the only trip I was able to come on in the last 3 months and the cave was underwater.
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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2017, 05:26:47 pm »


We are digging against this fault wall where there is nice half tube. Stream sinking by the diggers feet.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2017, 12:10:32 pm »
Good progress made in Guscott pot - passage heading towards North choke in Frog pot. About 4m of passage was widened to get to a large square boulder. So far only super thinnies have managed to slither along the wet passage to get to this boulder with report they could see partially blocked passage beyond and sound of cascades. After widening the passage this weekend an easy way was made to the boulder and they could see open passage beyond. It looked about 5m long but steamy conditions meant it was not possible to see the detail at the far end. It was clear that the passage was flat out but not desperate and then the floor dropped away meaning the passage gets bigger. The next session will be interesting as we will at least bring the link to Frog pot at least 5m closer if not more.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2017, 11:39:46 am »
GUSCOTT POT ARCH ENLARGED AND VIEW OF PASSAGE BEYOND..
Nick and Chris restarted the digging efforts (there had been no digging since end of June) by working on the link to Frog pot from the Guscott pot end. They made their way with the gear along Test of Faith passage and although they were not looking forward to the awkward squirm it did not seem as horrid as usual. Having said that the pool in the first section of passage was higher than usual probably because the exit had become blocked with mud.
At the dig face Chris straight away got to work on enlarging the arch while Nick ferried buckets of rock back to Shale chamber. The wall and space behind in Shale chamber is now almost to the roof. There will be need to stack stones elsewhere soon which is no problem as there is a couple of options.
Eventually the arch was easy to crawl under and to a small enlargement of the passage however a couple of flakes of rock pushed Chris over to one side and all he could see was a too small narrow vadose clean washed passage ahead. Disappointed with this he determined to then strain over to the left and pushing this helmet ahead check if this was the end of digging activities. Fortunately he was rewarded with a view along 1.5m of passage that was too narrow but that then enlarged and joined a larger passage beyond. The dig continues....
Next time the arch needs further enlargement so we they can then attack the 1.m trench and head towards the open passage beyond. They also plan to survey both ends and find out the distance and depth between the two caves.
Pleased with their work, and now cold they made their way out for the usual drink at the Crown Lofthouse.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2017, 05:58:21 pm »
Saturday coming is a big dig day with another attack on the main Guscott choke.

We now have 3 solid walls and the dig is continuing straight down though easy to dig rocks and pebbles. As always with this dig the problem is labour as all spoil has to be taken back up though the choke to the surface which means a minimum of six people. Progress will be rapid this time and Bridge Hall in Goyden 4 will be getting closer with every pebble removed.

The shaft seen developing at the end of the dig in previous posts is now much deeper and will now need a ladder installing to get up and down. I had a look in two weeks ago and as I was poking around with the 5 foot bar it was just disappearing out of sight at every point prodded. The draught in was also much stronger.

All welcome, either pm me or just turn up at the Limley Farm car parking spot at 10am. If anyone is just out caving in Nidderdale swing by and say hello, someone will be on the surface all day. Walk through farm yard to field and then through the metal swing gate in the fence to river bed as if approching New Goyden then turn left upstream to Gusscot Pot.

It promises to be a really good day.

Please park sensibly away from the gate, there is plenty of room just beyond it.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2017, 05:43:46 pm »
ULSA have just confirmed 8 people for big dig on Saturday! Yahoo.  :bow:

Any more takers for a great days digging.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2017, 12:25:59 am »
I'll pop along.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2017, 08:43:23 am »
Fascinating reading this.

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Re: Guscott pot - three digs
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2017, 02:43:11 pm »
SOLO DIG
I (Chris) went for a solo dig at Guscott pot choke. First thing I did was carry in a three scaffold pole and my ammo can. After I stacked the boulders from the previous digging session on the back wall I took a 'before' photo. I quickly removed the two diagonal poles that were now undermined by the previous dig. The passage on the right had become to low so the ULSA guys had started to dig away at the choke and rift to the left to get a parallel way past the low arch.
I wanted to get in a new vertical pole but the poles were too long so I went out the pot in search for a shorter one. None available so I took three more poles in and swopped one for a slightly shorter one in scaffold roof. This pole went in ok. Now I set about trying to remove a huge boulder (twice as big as first appeared) it moved slightly with a long crowbar lever but could not pull it towards me with a rope. I then set up a pulley system and finally got the thing to move slowly towards me. It was 8 shaped with the bottom circle bigger than the one on the top. A mix of hammering at it to reduce its size and pulley system eventually won the day. I finally hammered it into smaller boulders so it can be removed later. The vertical and horizontal poles gave me an initial frame to add other poles to and finished off building some wall. There is still a bit more to do to make it all safe but the bulk of the work has been done. Before I exited I crawled along the 3m passage to view the dig and ongoing passage at the end then took my 'after' photos. Will see if I can post photos here if I can remember how. It had been a long time since I dug solo and realized I miss it. Trips with the team and solo trips are very different and I love them both.