a gash in my beaver!!!!

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Agrophobic

Guest
A tight and jagged cave on xmass eve resulted in a tear in my cordura suit. can anyone recomend the best way to repair it?
as it's a right angeled tear i could just sew it up but would i be better putting a patch over it and should i glue it or sew it on?
any suggestions gratefully recieved (apart from buy a warmbac, hee hee)
 

SamT

Moderator
I had a similar (right angled tear in my warmbac) - Stiched it - then smothered stitching in seam sealant. Have done the same on tackle sacks and its always been a pretty bomb proof repair. The rest of the warmbac wore out, and repair was still going out.
 
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Agrophobic

Guest
Cheers guys  (y) i'll get my sewing kit out and smother it when i can get some of the recomended goo.
 

shotlighter

Active member
Cobblers - a proper one that does industrial sewing as well. Couple of years back, had a nearly new (2nd trip) Warmbac torn so badly that it was bin fodder.
Local Cobbler sorted it for a tenner - repair out lasted the suit.
 

shotlighter

Active member
graham said:
Warmbac will do repairs, if the area can be got on the sewing machine, so not sleeves.
Any idea what they charge to replace an oversuit zip? That's all that's wrong with mine.
 

graham

New member
shotlighter said:
graham said:
Warmbac will do repairs, if the area can be got on the sewing machine, so not sleeves.
Any idea what they charge to replace an oversuit zip? That's all that's wrong with mine.

No idea at all, but they would certainly do it. Give 'em a call. http://www.warmbac.com/
 

shotlighter

Active member
graham said:
shotlighter said:
graham said:
Warmbac will do repairs, if the area can be got on the sewing machine, so not sleeves.
Any idea what they charge to replace an oversuit zip? That's all that's wrong with mine.

No idea at all, but they would certainly do it. Give 'em a call. http://www.warmbac.com/
Cheers Graham - BTW is that you in the pic with your wife, or me with a beard. Uncanny!
 

pete h

New member
graham said:
Warmbac will do repairs, if the area can be got on the sewing machine, so not sleeves.
I think it will be taking the piss to ask them to repair a beaver. :spank:
And i think this would be there answere :ras: :ras:
 

Pitlamp

Well-known member
DON'T use "shoe goo" and the like - they are intended for a different purpose. Hold the L shaped tear in the right position by placing parcel tape on one side. Then place a bead of Aquasure along the L on the other side. (The Aquasure is best applied to the side of the material with the most obvious texture, so it is better keyed to the fabric, which normally means the outside.) You MUST ensure that the repair area is kept absolutely horizontal during setting of the Aquasure repair compound as it has a tendency to run away from where it's needed. Allow a good 24 hours for the Aquasure to dry. Best of luck.
 
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Agrophobic

Guest
Thanks for all suggestions guys (y) i've sewn it and run some pvc glue down it as a teporary repair until i can get some of the proper glue, no one suggested patching it so i rejected that idea. and its just below the knee so i doubt if a cobbler could get it in the machine even if there was one close enough to me to be worth it.
A happy new year to you all.
 
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workshopmonkey

Guest
I use either aquasure or Blackwitch on my drysuits. I've had some holes filled with sikaflex 981 which is a marine sealant, the benfit iof using this is that you can smooth it out easily
 
I have just had a large patch (own supply) stitched and glued to the split back seam of a Warmbac Cordura suit by an old fashioned cobblers in Reading for just ?5. I am well pleased with the result, the suit should now manage a few more trips down the new Upper Flood. The chap who did it is happy to do such repairs, tackle sacks too. The quaint shop has a strong leather and glue aroma with hides hanging up here and there.

For those of you who can get there, the business is Turners Shoe Repairs of 273 Oxford Road Reading (tel 0118 9590945), just by the Reading West Station bridge.

 

Hughie

Active member
whitelackington said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7212888.stm
Beavers coming to us!   (y)

Sorry - nothing to do with caving.

Robbed from another forum.

I can just imagine DEFRA or the Environment agency in this country sending out a similar letter to this......... 


The Dam 

     
This is an actual letter sent to a man named Ryan DeVries regarding a pond on his property. It was sent by the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Quality, State of Pennsylvania. This guy's response is hilarious, but read State's letter before you get to the response letter.   



SUBJECT: DEQ File No.97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Lycoming County   

Dear Mr. DeVries: 

It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of property.  You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity:     

Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond.     


A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity. A review of the Department's files shows that no permits have been issued.  Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Pennsylvania Compiled Laws, annotated. 


The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at downstream locations.  We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the stream channel.  All restoration work shall be completed  no later than January 31, 2006.   

Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff.  Failure to comply with this request or any further unauthorized activity on the site may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action..   
We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter.  Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions. 

Sincerely, 

David L. Price 
District Representative and Water Management Division. 


Here is the actual response sent back by Mr. DeVries: 


Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Lycoming County 

Dear Mr. Price, 

Your certified letter dated 12/17/02 has been handed to me to respond to.  I am the legal landowner but not the Contractor at 2088 Dagget Lane, Trout Run, Pennsylvania.   

A couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond.  While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their dam project, I think they would be highly offended that you call their skillful use of natures building materials "debris." 

I would like to challenge your department to attempt to emulate their dam project any time and/or any place you choose.  I believe I can safely state there is no way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic. 


         
These are the beavers/contractors you are seeking.  As to your request, I do not think the beavers are aware that they must first fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity. 

My first dam question to you is: 

(1) Are you tryin g to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers, or 

(2) do you require all beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam request?   

If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, through the Freedom of Information Act, I request completed copies of all those other applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued.   

(Perhaps we will see if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Pennsylvania Compiled Laws, annotated.) 

I have several concerns.  My first concern is, aren't the beavers entitled to legal representation?  The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay for said representation -- so the State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer.  The Department's dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event, causing flooding, is proof that this is a natural occurrence, which the Department is required to protect.  In other words, we should leave the Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling them dam names.   

If you want the stream "restored" to a dam free-flow condition please contact the beavers -- but if you are going to arrest them, they obviously did not pay any attention to your dam letter, they being unable to read English.   

In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build their unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green and water flows downstream.  They have more dam rights than I do to live and enjoy Spring Pond.  If the Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Protection lives up to its name, it should protect the natural resources (Beavers) and the environment (Beavers' Dams).   

So, as far as the beavers and I are concerned, this dam case can be referred for more elevated enforcement action right now. Why wait until 1/31/2006? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then and there will be no way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them. 

In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention to a real environmental quality, health, problem in the area.  It is the bears!  Bears are actually defecating in our woods.  I definitely believe you should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the beavers alone. If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step!  The bears are not careful where they dump! 

Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam office. 

THANK YOU,   

RYAN DEVRIES 
& THE DAM BEAVERS
 
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