When you know you need a talent upgrade

ZombieCake

Well-known member
I've the exact same Vox amp 6 mins 47sec in. Yep, I need to practice a lot more, OK really a lot more.  OK, I'm not Bon Jovi, or other people that know chords.  There again the CD player has been invented...  And yes the amp sounds nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pesT_u_N2tk
 

pwhole

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If you like guitar solos, try this - Steve Vai duelling with Frank Zappa when he was in his band, early 80s. I saw them at Hammersmith Odeon two weeks later. Steve does his best to keep up and definitely shows promise, but it's still a tutorial really. The length of the solo is determined by the 'egg timer' cigarette in the headstock, if you can make it to the end. Vai's impertinence wins him 'the eyebrows'. He returned to play with the Dweezil Zappa band not that long ago where they did a 3-hour show at The Royal Albert Hall - incredible.

There are about a million more by FZ out there in every style imaginable, but all are as good as this, or better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXurfnnni8Q

And for a total contrast, from the same tour, using an experimental 'mini-guitar' someone lent him - sadly two minutes of the video track were accidentally lost and replaced with some other stuff, but stick it out - it returns. Personally I think he's in a class of his own:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf4bjByMcvE
 

Ceiriog Chris

New member
I enjoyed watching this on U tube a few years ago, maybe someone else posted the same video on there but it used to be amusingly called Stevies spanking !
 

pwhole

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About a large groupie named Laurel who liked to beat up guys with a heavy hairbrush, and left Vai with a very red arse after a show one night apparently. FZ was just rubbing the wound after that ;)
 

tamarmole

Active member
Self indulgent twiddly diddlying.  For a proper guitar solo this is where its at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoYiQ8Qsozk
 

pwhole

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I don't know about that! I do like long solos as long as they're actually trying to go somewhere with it rather than just boiling noodles. But I do like a grungy simplistic mess sometimes too. Like this hilariously over-the-top nonsense from Ultimate Spinach, 1968. 'My troubled mind...':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVR-jmRm5pE

Also from 1968. from the more 'direct' brand of psychedelia - Public Nuisance. Though this could just as easily be from 1992:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X43UCRBBO3U
 

AR

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That Public Nuisance track does sound like a lot of the stuff that came out of Seattle in the Grunge era - shows how retro it was really, particularly if you cop an earful of the MC5, the Stooges or Blue Cheer....
 

Pitlamp

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Some seriously skilful shredding above. But fast isn't necessarily soulful. I see Mick Taylor's not yet featured on here; try the two solos on this (starting around 1-20 and then 2-45).
Taylor was unusual in always having a blank expression but putting loads of emotion into his playing. The Stones should never have let him go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dd3aNFcw80
 

shotlighter

Active member
Ok there's a lot of bassists that make me wish for  massive talent upgrade, but all from the old school, Jaco, Norman Watt-Roy ect.
Just discovered this guy though, so for those who prefer a treble free zone - Joe Dart from Vulfpeck.....Nice
https://youtu.be/to22meUpSEI
 

Mark Wright

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I can just about make my way around the bass on Chain. Tal Wilcenfeld has to be my favourite bass player.

Here she is with Jeff Beck.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwic6ozizMTuAhWDQkEAHWeKDagQwqsBMAB6BAgMEAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DKn2Yvjd5kqY&usg=AOvVaw18i5_W1QgwIBrgmYuoxCnW

Mark
 

shotlighter

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Mark Wright said:
I can just about make my way around the bass on Chain. Tal Wilcenfeld has to be my favourite bass player.

Here she is with Jeff Beck.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwic6ozizMTuAhWDQkEAHWeKDagQwqsBMAB6BAgMEAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DKn2Yvjd5kqY&usg=AOvVaw18i5_W1QgwIBrgmYuoxCnW

Mark
The Chain is about my standard too but there's no harm in trying. Though my long suffering missus downstairs may disagree!!
 

pwhole

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It's about time we had some Grateful Dead up here, with an up-to-date weather forecast. Four-hour gigs were regular occurrences, so don't plan to get the last bus home. The full one of this is only two hours thirty-nine minutes (option below) but this is a nice warm-up. The only band to have exotic carpets on stage too, but why not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5skcYZMxu4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8rVM8GlD4c
 
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