Yup showing OK now. Have you done the same for Adit Now?
Have you been in Upper Balls Green? There is some excellent graffiti in there including a diagram of what rock they need for a window.
Daveutter tosh .... nothing more than pure selfish vandalism ..
Although it pains me to say it, I agree with a lot of the points Graham has made,
Quote from: bograt on September 03, 2014, 11:09:09 pmAlthough it pains me to say it, I agree with a lot of the points Graham has made, Play the ball, old son, not the man.
Sorry Graham, previous posts etc., what do you think of the rest of my submission?
Quote from: bograt on September 03, 2014, 11:25:20 pmSorry Graham, previous posts etc., what do you think of the rest of my submission? I don't have the experience to have an opinion. You say it looks like a bog-standard piece of kit, others have said it is rare. I don't know and so am not in a position to judge what may be the best way to proceed here.
Quote from: graham on September 03, 2014, 11:33:43 pmQuote from: bograt on September 03, 2014, 11:25:20 pmSorry Graham, previous posts etc., what do you think of the rest of my submission? I don't have the experience to have an opinion. You say it looks like a bog-standard piece of kit, others have said it is rare. I don't know and so am not in a position to judge what may be the best way to proceed here.Fair enough, maybe some mine histerians (sic) can explain why this lump of metal should be left where it is, rather than showed to Joe Public?
Quote from: bograt on September 03, 2014, 11:44:22 pmQuote from: graham on September 03, 2014, 11:33:43 pmQuote from: bograt on September 03, 2014, 11:25:20 pmSorry Graham, previous posts etc., what do you think of the rest of my submission? I don't have the experience to have an opinion. You say it looks like a bog-standard piece of kit, others have said it is rare. I don't know and so am not in a position to judge what may be the best way to proceed here.Fair enough, maybe some mine histerians (sic) can explain why this lump of metal should be left where it is, rather than showed to Joe Public?Maybe a caver could explain why this lump of metal shouldn't be used to transport a nice stal or other random lump of calcite to the surface to be shown to Joe Public rather than left in a position where it might retain some context.The calcite may after all regenerate to some degree, unlike the tub.The basic rules for caves and mines are really pretty much the same; keep your grubby hands off!
snip. That said to the uninitiated it does look like a bog standard Hudson skip.
As well as cutting up the wagon they did not have the permission of the person who's land the mine entrance is accessed from, nor the mine owners.
But it's a well know fact that landowners have no right to stop cavers doing anything they want anytime they want on their land.