Caving Politics vs Normal Politics (If this upsets you, please do not read it).

Which of the following BEST describes you? (let's not descend into a debate of degrees please)

  • Conservative Politics Values/Voted Leave EU/Don't like locks on caves

    Votes: 9 8.4%

  • Conservative Politics Values/Voted Leave EU/Prefer official locks-access agreements-protocol

    Votes: 4 3.7%

  • Conservative Politics Values/Voted Remain/Don't like locks on caves.

    Votes: 5 4.7%

  • Conservative Politics Values/Voted Remain/Prefer official locks-access agreements-protocol

    Votes: 3 2.8%

  • Progressive Politics Values/Voted Leave EU/Don't like locks on caves

    Votes: 3 2.8%

  • Progressive Politics Values/Voted Leave EU/Prefer official locks-access agreements-protocol

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • Progressive Politics Values/Voted Remain/Don't like locks on caves

    Votes: 49 45.8%

  • Progressive Politics Values/Voted Remain/Prefer official locks-access agreements-protocol

    Votes: 11 10.3%

  • I am one of those irritating people who likes to debate detail and as a result I cannot answer this.

    Votes: 7 6.5%

  • I am a foreigner!

    Votes: 4 3.7%

  • I don't like to be identified by labels and find them damaging and upsetting

    Votes: 10 9.3%
  • Total voters
    107
  • Poll closed .
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Disgusted from Cornwall.

New member
I was contemplating politics and how various tribes within the caving community are cohesive, mutually irritating and stereotyped.

This is a bit of fun, let's not let it descend into something that gets banned, or upsets anyone.  :spank:
 
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Fulk

Well-known member
No offence meant, DFC, but I hate questionnaires . . . so I suppose that, if I voted, it would be for the last one.
 
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Kenilworth

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I'm a tribeless foreigner, politically neutral, and don't reckon locks or gates should be a political issue but a practical one.
 
Pitlamp

Pitlamp

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Don't feel I can vote because every gate situation is different and should be decided on, by consensus, on its own merit.
 
royfellows

royfellows

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I recon he is out to flush out the landowning anti free access Tories, and to see how many renegade free access Tories supported BREXIT
:LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
 
The Old Ruminator

The Old Ruminator

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Disgusted from Cornwall. said:
This is not showing what I expected it to show!!!!!! In fact, it's almost the opposite!
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Things like this tend to show an imbalance of views. For instance those who dont like caves being locked tend to be more vociferous than those who do. Therefore those who hate locked caves will probably all vote whilst those who dont or who are ambivalent may not bother. That's probably why the Brexit vote went the way it did. Ask the same about who likes or dislikes Marmite and you will get the same imbalance.
 
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Disgusted from Cornwall.

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I was expecting our "libertarian lock attitude lot" to be conservative brexiters.

I suppose I should have added a "where's my hacksaw" "reenact guy fawkes, but with C4" options.

I admit, progressive/conservative doesn't resolve things adequately for my point of view.
 
NewStuff

NewStuff

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I know Brexiters that hate locks and Brexiters that love them. Remainers that hate locks and Remainers that love them. I know ambivalent people that hate locks, and some that love them.

While the Politics (big P) is all over the map, there doesn't really seem to be much middle ground regarding locks, at least in sample size I have. The ones with hacksaws usually belong to our club ;-)
 
2xw

2xw

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NewStuff said:
I know Brexiters that hate locks and Brexiters that love them. Remainers that hate locks and Remainers that love them. I know ambivalent people that hate locks, and some that love them.

While the Politics (big P) is all over the map, there doesn't really seem to be much middle ground regarding locks, at least in sample size I have. The ones with hacksaws usually belong to our club ;-)
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Maybe Derbyshire Keys are a middle ground? I don't like gates but I don't mind a Derbyshire Key
 
NewStuff

NewStuff

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2xw said:
NewStuff said:
I know Brexiters that hate locks and Brexiters that love them. Remainers that hate locks and Remainers that love them. I know ambivalent people that hate locks, and some that love them.

While the Politics (big P) is all over the map, there doesn't really seem to be much middle ground regarding locks, at least in sample size I have. The ones with hacksaws usually belong to our club ;-)
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Maybe Derbyshire Keys are a middle ground? I don't like gates but I don't mind a Derbyshire Key
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If it has to be gated, I'm all for Derby keys. Issue is, some people seem to have a gate fetish they can't shake off.
 
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