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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #300 on: May 18, 2017, 06:49:11 pm »
As far as I know the diggers are engaged in other activities. Have to stick with OR's posts instead ;)

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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #301 on: May 18, 2017, 07:31:06 pm »
I am not allowed to post about our dig    :weep:

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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #302 on: May 18, 2017, 08:28:01 pm »
The caravan has long gone.  Dig abandon.  Can I take it over?

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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #303 on: May 18, 2017, 11:05:42 pm »

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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #305 on: May 19, 2017, 09:44:48 am »
Exactly cus its SECRET ! :clap2:

I am not allowed to post here cus it's not secret. :lol:

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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #306 on: May 19, 2017, 10:41:23 am »
You haven't gone metric?
Bierstein Shaft Dig!  :o
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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #307 on: May 21, 2017, 08:15:41 pm »
Sorry to be a pest but is there anything further to report here?

Duncan got married...  ;)

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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #308 on: May 22, 2017, 03:29:06 am »
What sort of excuse is that?  :hug:
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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #309 on: May 23, 2017, 09:55:00 am »
Sorry to be a pest but is there anything further to report here?

Duncan got married...  ;)

Mike
LOL LOL  :clap2:

I did indeed get married to Miri, who has stepped down from being Treasurer of the Finnish Caving Society and moved to the UK.

The caravan is just visible at the edge of the next field waiting for the diggers to get back on the case.
Nothing else to report on Tankard...

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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #310 on: May 23, 2017, 02:28:05 pm »
Sorry to be a pest but is there anything further to report here?

Duncan got married...  ;)

Mike
LOL LOL  :clap2:

I did indeed get married to Miri, who has stepped down from being Treasurer of the Finnish Caving Society and moved to the UK.

The caravan is just visible at the edge of the next field waiting for the diggers to get back on the case.
Nothing else to report on Tankard...

You must be joking.  I am sure that there are no caves in Finland.


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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #311 on: May 23, 2017, 02:37:46 pm »

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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #313 on: May 23, 2017, 03:07:58 pm »
I thought of this, but it's in Sweeden :(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lummelunda_Cave

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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #314 on: May 23, 2017, 05:04:06 pm »
Well, I'm a member of the Finish Caving Society, being an old decrepit person.
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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #315 on: May 30, 2017, 09:53:36 am »
I went to the HE lecture and can vouch for the fact that there is at least one cave in Finland!

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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #316 on: June 01, 2017, 01:15:08 pm »
Sorry to be a pest but is there anything further to report here?

Duncan got married...  ;)

Mike
LOL LOL  :clap2:

I did indeed get married to Miri, who has stepped down from being Treasurer of the Finnish Caving Society and moved to the UK.

The caravan is just visible at the edge of the next field waiting for the diggers to get back on the case.
Nothing else to report on Tankard...

You must be joking.  I am sure that there are no caves in Finland.


Just found a book review in the latest issue of Grottan, the Newsletter of the Swedish Speleological Society.  The book is in Finish, but fortunately the review is in Swedish which like bad German, is easy to understand.

Suomen Luolat by Aimo Kejonen, Tu- omo Kesäläinen, Sakari Kielosto, Seppo I. Lahti and Veli-Pekka Salonen. Salkirjat 2013. 432 pages.
Suomen Luolat - Finnish Caves begins with a chapter on Finnish Cave History (see also the article in Grottan No 3  2013 by Eetu and Aimo Kejonen). The next chapter deals with different cave types and their formation. A short chapter introduces cave climates and hydrology, while a little longer chapter deals with sediment inclusion. Most of the illustrations in this later chapter are from caves outside of Finland.  Then one or a few pages on erosion forms, dating caves and threats to caves / cave protection. One of the longest chapters is cave-living organisms, thoroughly illustrated with some twenty species (or groups) of cave organisms. The introductory part is concluded with chapters on archaeology, cultural history, sagas, cave houses, and cave equipment. Looking closely at the pictures in the introductory chapter, you can find several familiar faces, how many do you know?! The main part of the book - more than 300 pages - is in practice a cave catalog that represents 165 caves and cave-like formations (or sometimes only geological phenomena that usually appeal to caves, such as jackpots and flocks) more forcoming with pictures, texts and topo - Graphic maps (and of course coordinates to the caves!). Even for us who do not live in Finland, this part of the book it very useful.  For example, six caves of Aland are presented, about 30 in the vicinity of Abo and 20 in Helsinki.  What I can miss is a small table of the longest and deepest caves in Finland, but on the other hand, the longest so far I know (at least when the book was written) is the just under 100 meters long Torhol Cave between Abo and Helsinki. Just scrolling in and looking at the pictures makes you feel like going east.  The caves are splendid and look like exciting places. Suomen Luolat should be procured by anyone who may wish to spend a few holiday days in Finland (Available from: adlibris.com)

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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #317 on: September 29, 2017, 07:57:23 pm »
Sorry to be a pest but is there anything further to report here?

Duncan got married...  ;)

Mike
LOL LOL  :clap2:

I did indeed get married to Miri, who has stepped down from being Treasurer of the Finnish Caving Society and moved to the UK.

The caravan is just visible at the edge of the next field waiting for the diggers to get back on the case.
Nothing else to report on Tankard...

You must be joking.  I am sure that there are no caves in Finland.


Just found a book review in the latest issue of Grottan, the Newsletter of the Swedish Speleological Society.  The book is in Finish, but fortunately the review is in Swedish which like bad German, is easy to understand.

Suomen Luolat by Aimo Kejonen, Tu- omo Kesäläinen, Sakari Kielosto, Seppo I. Lahti and Veli-Pekka Salonen. Salkirjat 2013. 432 pages.
Suomen Luolat - Finnish Caves begins with a chapter on Finnish Cave History (see also the article in Grottan No 3  2013 by Eetu and Aimo Kejonen). The next chapter deals with different cave types and their formation. A short chapter introduces cave climates and hydrology, while a little longer chapter deals with sediment inclusion. Most of the illustrations in this later chapter are from caves outside of Finland.  Then one or a few pages on erosion forms, dating caves and threats to caves / cave protection. One of the longest chapters is cave-living organisms, thoroughly illustrated with some twenty species (or groups) of cave organisms. The introductory part is concluded with chapters on archaeology, cultural history, sagas, cave houses, and cave equipment. Looking closely at the pictures in the introductory chapter, you can find several familiar faces, how many do you know?! The main part of the book - more than 300 pages - is in practice a cave catalog that represents 165 caves and cave-like formations (or sometimes only geological phenomena that usually appeal to caves, such as jackpots and flocks) more forcoming with pictures, texts and topo - Graphic maps (and of course coordinates to the caves!). Even for us who do not live in Finland, this part of the book it very useful.  For example, six caves of Aland are presented, about 30 in the vicinity of Abo and 20 in Helsinki.  What I can miss is a small table of the longest and deepest caves in Finland, but on the other hand, the longest so far I know (at least when the book was written) is the just under 100 meters long Torhol Cave between Abo and Helsinki. Just scrolling in and looking at the pictures makes you feel like going east.  The caves are splendid and look like exciting places. Suomen Luolat should be procured by anyone who may wish to spend a few holiday days in Finland (Available from: adlibris.com)

More on the longest cave in Sweden - appears to have shrunk, now only 30 m long:

Finland's largest limestone cave

In the western part of the mountain area at Karkali, the southern shore is formed, Finland's largest cave is eroded in the calcareous bedrock. The entire length of the cave is little more than 30 meters. Halfway in, the cave is right, but towards the end it narrows considerably. Be careful when you move in the cave.

from Grottan 52 (3) 19-24, 5 colour photos.


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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #318 on: October 12, 2017, 12:26:02 pm »
Duncan knows I say this in good faith, but someone needs to arrange access with the landowner and this dig needs to continue...take away the blogs and gratification, this is a cave that will 'go' big time.
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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #319 on: October 12, 2017, 09:10:29 pm »
Tankard is still being worked on, just not by people who post on here.

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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #320 on: October 12, 2017, 09:41:07 pm »
Oh you little tease! Please encourage those folk who're digging to give us poor old farts an update.
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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #321 on: October 13, 2017, 09:35:24 am »
Well....its good news to hear something is getting done there.

I imagine it's back to square one and everything is being stabilised before we're hear any more news.

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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #322 on: October 17, 2017, 05:54:12 pm »
Work continues at Tankards on a weekly basis.  The effort all year has been in stabilising it.
The bottom of the entrance shaft has been built up. Attention has been given to the loose boulders in the roof just inside the entrance. This is nearing completion. We then need to decide how to proceed.
The landowner continues to be helpful.
Duncan hasn't been around for a while. Hence the lack of online progress reports. I am happy to update when there is progress. Given the unstable nature of the place, it will be slow.

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Re: Tankard Shaft Dig
« Reply #323 on: October 17, 2017, 07:34:21 pm »
Good to hear it is still being worked on. Thanks for the updates to come......even if slow progress