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'New to Caving' website launched
« on: June 22, 2017, 11:25:23 am »
We're delighted to announce the launch of a new website

www.newtocaving.com





Years ago, if interested in caving it was down the library to read 'The Spur Book of Caving', nowadays it's reach for the smart phone.

We therefore wanted to provide a modern, professionally designed website to inspire and encourage new people to take up our sport.

With the help of Dan at http://www.torstudio.co.uk/ (who by coincidence happens to have a mine shaft in his back garden that cavers have recently made safe!) and after several months of hard work and invaluable support from many cavers we are finally ready to 'go live'  ;D

Thank you to all the photographers who allowed us to use their fabulous shots, to the video team, especially Mark Sims for all his technical help, to Adele for the use of her story and Southampton Uni for their excellent poster....and also to all those who responded to my various requests for help - even if we didn't use your photo, you gave us more choice and that in itself was so useful, thank you  :thumbsup:

If you know of a group or organisation who would be interested linking to 'New to Caving', please PM me or simply send them the link, thank you.

Please help us spread the word about caving to a new generation of cavers, share on social media or if you run a caving club (or other) website consider linking to 'New to Caving' - thank you for your support.

We hope you like it, cheers, Pegasus & Badlad
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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2017, 12:13:47 pm »
Brilliant! Really good website and a great advert for the sport. Love the video as well!  :clap2:

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2017, 12:22:49 pm »
Good looking site well thought out & presented all the best with it

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2017, 02:04:11 pm »
Great web site folks :thumbsup:

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2017, 02:22:56 pm »
I like the layout and the video is excellent - a good choice of location as that's where a lot of newbies start. Lots of well presented information, it hopefully will encourage more to venture underground. It might be worthwhile if caving club websites (and the BCA) link to it to push up its page rank in Google.

My only (slight) criticism is there seems to be no mention of mine-exploring  :down:

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2017, 02:39:08 pm »
Thanks everyone for the encouragement.

@Dave - so sorry no mention of mine exploration  :-[  We will be updating NTC to keep it fresh and I'll take all comments into account - yours is on the list!  We could add something to taking it further maybe??

I couldn't agree more about the more links to the site the better.  We will be asking all clubs who want to be listed if they will please link back to us - seems fair enough, reciprocal links  :)


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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2017, 02:54:33 pm »
The original initiative was applaudable and to see it carried through (with finesse) is great.

Top job !

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2017, 04:00:35 pm »
Great website and thanks for including Mine exploration!

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2017, 06:02:31 pm »
Looks good. For some reason "The Forest" has been separated from "of Dean & Devon." on this page:
http://newtocaving.com/start-caving.php
& would be good if the map had some links to pictures of each area's caves...

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2017, 07:40:11 pm »
Looks good. For some reason "The Forest" has been separated from "of Dean & Devon." on this page:
http://newtocaving.com/start-caving.php
& would be good if the map had some links to pictures of each area's caves...

Mike

If you view on a laptop there's a map with photos of the various caving regions, but not visible when viewing by mobile - so have forwarded your comments to Dan, thank you  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2017, 07:48:08 pm »
Excellent website, we've been long overdue for something fresh like this.

The clubs are currently organised alphabetically, would it be possible to arrange that they are searchable by geographical area? (I.e., if I live in Aberystwyth where is my nearest club?)

Good effort.

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2017, 08:17:23 pm »
Good stuff  :thumbsup:

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2017, 08:57:20 pm »
What a wonderful website. It answers (some) of the questions people always used to ask me - 'Why do you do it?' Hopefully it will inspire more people...

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2017, 09:46:22 pm »
I like the layout and the video is excellent - a good choice of location as that's where a lot of newbies start. Lots of well presented information, it hopefully will encourage more to venture underground. It might be worthwhile if caving club websites (and the BCA) link to it to push up its page rank in Google.

My only (slight) criticism is there seems to be no mention of mine-exploring  :down:

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I rather think one of the photos is Rhiw Bach!

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2017, 10:15:51 pm »
Excellent,  really well done.  There's been a lot of thought and hard work put into that and it's come out well.
Congratulations.

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2017, 10:54:43 pm »
Excellent website, we've been long overdue for something fresh like this.

The clubs are currently organised alphabetically, would it be possible to arrange that they are searchable by geographical area? (I.e., if I live in Aberystwyth where is my nearest club?)

Good effort.

L

Thank you (everyone) for your positive feedback. 

Ref clubs being searchable by geographical area - it wasn't easy getting the list together that's on New to Caving at the moment - see this thread:

http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=21747.0  ... and thank you to all those who responded from those clubs  :thumbsup: 

so we left it as alphabetical for now.

Hopefully clubs who want to be added and have a good 'novice policy' will fill in the form - all we will ask is they agree to put a link to NTC on their website.

We've already had a number of requests (I'll be in touch soon - it's been a bit busy today!) and as the list lengthens, we'll look again at how the clubs are listed.

Cheers, Pegasus


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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2017, 11:17:56 pm »
Great looking site - well done.
However, you clearly mostly cave in nice clean water-washed Yorkshire caves - "The caver may walk, twist and squeeze, they may climb, stoop and crawl, and they may plunge, wade and swim; ascending and descending through the wonderful spaces left between rock and water." In Derbyshire that would be "between rock and mud."
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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2017, 11:20:06 pm »
Great website, well done, but please reconsider showing the picture on home page which has 3 cavers standing on top of stalagmites in a large very well decorated chamber. Whatever safeguards you took taking off boots etc this will not be apparent to a novice caver looking at the website who will likely get the message its OK to tread or climb over formations. Of course this contradicts the conservation messages on later page. Thanks, Mark Tringham

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2017, 08:50:48 am »
Great looking site - well done.
However, you clearly mostly cave in nice clean water-washed Yorkshire caves - "The caver may walk, twist and squeeze, they may climb, stoop and crawl, and they may plunge, wade and swim; ascending and descending through the wonderful spaces left between rock and water." In Derbyshire that would be "between rock and mud."
There are a few pics of muddy (& not so muddy) Mendip cavers...

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2017, 09:17:46 am »
Join the chorus, it really is a well made website, hope it gets lots of traffic!
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2017, 10:33:17 am »
Super!

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2017, 04:19:08 pm »
Nice   :beer2:

Just watched the caving video  ;D

it then rolled onto a video of Vin Garbutt then random video's of some females including the PM! before Vin came on again  :doubt: 

Has my laptop picked up a selection it thinks I might like or are they from the web page the first one is hung on?
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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2017, 10:04:55 am »
Looks good. For some reason "The Forest" has been separated from "of Dean & Devon." on this page:
http://newtocaving.com/start-caving.php
& would be good if the map had some links to pictures of each area's caves...

Mike

Hi Mikem,

This was Dan's reply:

I hid the image on mobile as it was far too small - you couldn't really see the images or the map clearly enough.
 
If you view it on mobile in landscape it appears though.
 
I'll get on to the Forest of Dean text today - well spotted!


So thanks for the good spot - and turn your mobile landscape to see the map :)  Cheers, Pegasus
 

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2017, 10:10:53 am »
Nice   :beer2:

Just watched the caving video  ;D

it then rolled onto a video of Vin Garbutt then random video's of some females including the PM! before Vin came on again  :doubt: 

Has my laptop picked up a selection it thinks I might like or are they from the web page the first one is hung on?

Thanks, Judy - video shouldn't run on, will get it sorted  :)

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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2017, 12:03:37 pm »
Hi Mikem,

This was Dan's reply:

I hid the image on mobile as it was far too small - you couldn't really see the images or the map clearly enough.
 
If you view it on mobile in landscape it appears though.
 
I'll get on to the Forest of Dean text today - well spotted!


So thanks for the good spot - and turn your mobile landscape to see the map :)  Cheers, Pegasus
Yep, I can see the landscape pictures, but would be good to have some actual cave photos linked from there...

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2017, 01:31:25 pm »
Hi Mike, I've started a 'Update New to Caving' list and your suggestion is on there  :thumbsup:

In the meantime there's a link (in bold white type) at the bottom of each page thanking the photographers, with links to their portfolios where possible.

http://newtocaving.com/photo-credits.php

I'd just like to say again how grateful we are to the photographers for generously allowing us to use their photographs - we've had lots of messages and comments from folks who've seen the site and everyone loves the photos  ;D

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Great looking site - well done.
However, you clearly mostly cave in nice clean water-washed Yorkshire caves - "The caver may walk, twist and squeeze, they may climb, stoop and crawl, and they may plunge, wade and swim; ascending and descending through the wonderful spaces left between rock and water." In Derbyshire that would be "between rock and mud."





 :lol:  We purposely avoided shots of tight, wet, muddy, caving loveliness as we wanted to inspire novices to go caving in the first place, once underground they'll soon find out about all aspects of caving and hopefully enjoy the challenges.  My second trip was down Peak - I got muddy  :o  If I'd have known before I went it might have put me off, going at all however once there I loved it - almost as much as the fish and chips when we got out  ;D. How many of us, when we say we go caving hear 'Oh I couldn't do that, I'm claustrophobic'?  Half the blummin population must be claustrophobic judging by the non cavers I've spoken to over the years.  That's why we avoided photos of very tight squeezes and even asked Claire to smile cheerfully as she came out of the Cheesepress  ;D




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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2017, 10:29:48 pm »
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How many of us, when we say we go caving hear 'Oh I couldn't do that, I'm claustrophobic'?  Half the blummin population must be claustrophobic...
Spot on, when ever I say I'm a caver when it crops up in general conversation people tend to start reaching for the crosses, garlic and holy water.  Although to be fair that happens a lot anyway :) Then people are actually quite really interested, but there is a reticence / fear there.
Still, it's always an interesting situation when there's the bees knees super hero type that once did a log flume ride at Chessington World of Adventures joins in the conversation and pushes you to say what you do, and you answer .....
Still, there is an image issue with caving and a scant realisation that it can take many forms and not always covered in mud.  There's been a fair few articles on the BBC for example about early human discoveries, but I'm not sure there's a mental link in the populace between that and sport caving for example.
The new website is great.

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2017, 11:21:24 pm »
Looking sexy. Well done  :thumbsup:

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« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2017, 12:03:49 pm »
Bugger - on it  :)

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2017, 12:33:12 pm »
Thanks to Q and Dan for both responding to e-mails and phonecalls on a Sunday  :thumbsup:

So issue now in the hands of the professionals (though one is on a train!), hopefully NTC will be back soon :)

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« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2017, 06:34:42 pm »
It's back up ;)

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« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2017, 10:50:57 pm »
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« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2017, 03:12:42 pm »
Hello, Had a look at your new web site, really great, top work!!

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« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2017, 11:33:17 pm »
Site looks great ! - makes dangling on a rope in Bar Pot, having a nervous break down seem almost worth it! Well done guys.
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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2017, 11:47:59 pm »
Hiya,

The new website looks good - I like the various photos that make caving look almost pleasant :)

Just to note that all the phone numbers on the caving instructor's page (http://newtocaving.com/contacts-instructors.php) have a link that will dial the same number (the hyperlink is tel:07921089793) no matter what is actually displayed as the contact number for the instructor. I don't know who's mobile number that is since it doesn't actually appear on the page!

Cheers,
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« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2017, 10:25:59 am »
Hiya,

The new website looks good - I like the various photos that make caving look almost pleasant :)

Just to note that all the phone numbers on the caving instructor's page (http://newtocaving.com/contacts-instructors.php) have a link that will dial the same number (the hyperlink is tel:07921089793) no matter what is actually displayed as the contact number for the instructor. I don't know who's mobile number that is since it doesn't actually appear on the page!

Cheers,
complex

Hi Complex, Well spotted!!  Will get onto the tech guys asap, thanks very much  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Pegasus

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Re: 'New to Caving' website launched
« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2017, 01:19:34 pm »
The Video on New to Caving re Long Churn  excellent  :beer2:
Good caving (a classic trip I first did 60 years ago +family with candles  etc)  good memories  ;D