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Re: Starting to Survey: gear options?
« Reply #50 on: March 25, 2014, 04:55:32 pm »
These allow the Dell Axim X51V to be fitted with the larger battery pack.

Larger - 2200 mAh or large - 3600 mAh?

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Re: Starting to Survey: gear options?
« Reply #51 on: March 25, 2014, 06:53:29 pm »
I have the 2250mAh battery plus some foam infiller to bring the Axim to the front of the Otterbox 2600.

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Re: Starting to Survey: gear options?
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2014, 07:22:53 am »
I have the 2250mAh battery plus some foam infiller to bring the Axim to the front of the Otterbox 2600.

TNX :)

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Re: Starting to Survey: gear options?
« Reply #53 on: March 26, 2014, 11:51:46 am »
Kdxn, How thick are the 2250mAh batteries.

Ta.

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Re: Starting to Survey: gear options?
« Reply #54 on: March 26, 2014, 06:13:25 pm »
U6191 battery specifications can be found here:
http://www.batteryexpress.org.uk/pda-battery/BATTERYPRODUCT.php/Replacement-battery-for-Dell/67670/U6191/

Batteries suitable for the Dell Axim X51V can be found at this link:
http://www.batteryexpress.org.uk/pda-battery/BATTERYPRODUCT1.php/Replacement-battery-for-Dell/1037937/AXIM%20X51V/

Alternatively from here where they also include the large battery cover for the PDA.
http://www.topbatteries.co.uk/dell-pda-battery/axim-x51.htm

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Re: Starting to Survey: gear options?
« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2014, 07:37:40 pm »
Can't fault the Dell Axim x51V. I've got two now, both under £20.00 on ebay.
Also I got one of these Otterboxes which I think are just the job.

Are you sure Axim x51v with big battery will fit into that Otterbox Armor 1900?

I have just got a 2200mAh battery and it will fit into the Armor 1900 box, with the larger depth plastic battery cover you need to remove the Velcro cradle but it does fit. If you do not use the cover the cradle can stay, the battery cannot come out because the PDA is snug against the back of the box/Velcro. You do though have to remove the back panel of the box to get the PDA in unlike with the standard 1100mAh battery which slides in through the removable top section. The back of the box has two clips and these are backed up with two M3 cap head screws, it takes 20 secs to remove.

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Re: Starting to Survey: gear options?
« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2014, 08:50:55 pm »
Axim x51v with 3600 mAh accu without cover fit exactly to OtterBox 2600.

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Re: Starting to Survey: gear options?
« Reply #57 on: May 08, 2014, 10:42:59 pm »
Been diggin. Been surveying. Loving both!
I got a Sunto Tandem from ebay (no bubbles, accurate, great shape, $60!) and a bosch disto that goes up to 285ft. This combined with rite in the rain binder and paper and pencil have prooven most effective. I am using Compass for the line plot and LRUD data, importing to Illustrator for drawing in the walls and features. So far no issues other than typical "learn how to do this" stuff which a missouri caver and hard core surveyor is coaching me on my cartography.

So far have surveyed and mapped a karst feature (which if anyone gets the idea to sig could turn cave, its not far below the contact). Just shy of being a cave at 40 something feet. Also found a virgin pit which at 52ft qualifies it to be a cave. And working on a resurvey/push project it will turn into another over mile long system for Alabama. Have another very promising dig we may end up having to blast open, it will be a fracture in the same fault as some other caves that are in the range of 100ft deep. So yeah. LIG :-D wish i could have started project caving earlier!! So much fun!

Oh, and turns out im a natural at sketching and keeping book so i just do that and let the other people take measurements :-) apparently around here there is more need for good sketchers than tape pullers so i will focus on honing those skills.
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Re: Starting to Survey: gear options?
« Reply #58 on: June 01, 2014, 12:29:14 pm »
Re pockettopo on Linux. No you can't run it directly on Linux (I've not managed to get it running via wine), and (despite much badgering of Beat) it's not free software so there's noting we can do about that. But unless you have a linux PDA/tablet you don't really care much. Topparser does a nice job of getting the data into your Linux machine.

You (mmilner) said you had trouble compiling therion. Which Linux are you using? Therion is part of the distro for Debian and Ubuntu (and presumably most derived distros) so no need to compile it. I maintain Survex, Therion, Tunnel, Terraintool, and Caveconverter packages for Debian (and thus derivatives) and will get round to packaging Topparser soon as Andrew seems to be failing to do it :-)

The new Therion 5.3.15 out this week has not yet been uploaded because it need updating to current version of vtk library (6.0)first. It's that sort of thing that makes compiling it yourself potentially painful, and why having distro packages is nice.

On Instruments I've used Silva, Suunto, SAP (Shetland Attack Pony) and distoX. Plus lots of different LDMs (laser distance meters).

One thing no-one mentioned so far is the Silva Type80 which is a lot easier to read than the Aluminium bodied instruments, lighter cheaper, and is somewhat more robust too. We buy them in preference to the Ali-bodied insts now.

I actually really like the SAP as a device, not least because it can calibrate itself without an external machine (I guess the DistoX2 fixes that as well?), but a) no-one is manufacturing them at the moment and b) you need a separate LDM, although I'm hoping to do some work to fix that this year.

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Re: Starting to Survey: gear options?
« Reply #59 on: June 01, 2014, 03:39:19 pm »
I agree regarding the Silva 80 - had the same one for ~15 years - far nicer to use and not had any steaming/leaking problems as you get with Suunto..... (haven't found an alternative to the Suunto clino though....)

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Re: Starting to Survey: gear options?
« Reply #60 on: June 01, 2014, 08:27:00 pm »
You (mmilner) said you had trouble compiling therion. Which Linux are you using? Therion is part of the distro for Debian and Ubuntu (and presumably most derived distros) so no need to compile it. I maintain Survex, Therion, Tunnel, Terraintool, and Caveconverter packages for Debian (and thus derivatives) and will get round to packaging Topparser soon as Andrew seems to be failing to do it :-)

One thing no-one mentioned so far is the Silva Type80 which is a lot easier to read than the Aluminium bodied instruments, lighter cheaper, and is somewhat more robust too. We buy them in preference to the Ali-bodied insts now.

Hi Wookie. It was on Mageia 3 (formerly Mandriva, formerly Mandrake) which uses rpm packages. I'm now on Mageia 4 so will give it another go at some point.

Re:- Compasses. I'm still using my trusty Silva Type 15 Ranger TDCL (compass/clino) I first got/used around 1980! It is a bit scuffed now and it's a pain having to swap from comp to clino all the time, but it's done a sterling job, even if I have had to lick mud off it on occasions, lol.

It would be great to have a device which I didn't have to faff about with in this way. I have bookmarked one of the dual comp/clino devices on ebay for around £60, but obv. there are better ways of doing these things these.days. I've got a Disto Basic (and a tape backup!) Maybe I should get another cheap clino so I don't have to switch all the time. (The compass still has no bubbles in it after over 30 years!)

Would be cool to have an Disto X2/PDA though, I've got loadsa stuff which still needs to be surveyed. Need to get another job first first though, sigh...

Regards, Mel.

Norbert Casteret (Ten Years Under the Earth) and Pierre Chevalier (Subterranean Climbers) were my inspiration to start caving. (And I'm still doing it.) Secretary, Darfar Potholing Club, the Peak District.