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Offline mikem

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Cheddar man on Ch 4 now
« on: February 18, 2018, 08:27:35 pm »


See title - guess it will be on demand later...

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« Last Edit: February 18, 2018, 09:11:55 pm by Pegasus, Reason: Added photo »

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Re: Cheddar man on Ch 4 now
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2018, 09:13:41 pm »
Watched it, fascinating, thanks for the heads up Mikem :thumbsup:

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Re: Cheddar man on Ch 4 now
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2018, 12:17:06 pm »
He looks rather smug to me. Like he knows something we don't.  ☺

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Re: Cheddar man on Ch 4 now
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2018, 01:19:24 pm »
I think he looks a bit annoyed.
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Re: Cheddar man on Ch 4 now
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2018, 01:29:27 pm »
I worked for many years at Cheddar Caves so I have an especial interest in Cheddar Man.
The programme wasn't too bad for Channel 4 but I hope there's an academic paper put on line and not lost in  in an unobtainable journal.
There's a couple of points I'd like clarified. The earlier, rather dodgy, DNA results showing that a direct descendant still lives in Cheddar was not mentioned. Why? I wonder. Perhaps they were being polite. And there's a wound to his head which was thought to have given him pain during life. Maybe the latest research concluded that it wasn't a wound.

This isn't an archaeological forum so I'll shut up.

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Re: Cheddar man on Ch 4 now
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2018, 01:34:47 pm »
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Re: Cheddar man on Ch 4 now
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2018, 03:39:56 pm »

I hope there's an academic paper put on line and not lost in  in an unobtainable journal.


According to the Cheddar Man page at NHM :

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The science behind the documentary - The scientific research behind this work is detailed in the preprint paper Population Replacement in Early Neolithic Britain.

PDF link to paper or see attached file below
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Re: Cheddar man on Ch 4 now
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2018, 04:51:00 pm »
Pegasus, I think given the DNA thing you should make this image the subject of a competition. Which current Mendip caving figure does the Cheddar man most closely resemble? To win, you have to post a photo of the caver concerned. The skin pigmentation is allowed to come from mud.

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Re: Cheddar man on Ch 4 now
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2018, 07:33:04 pm »
They did say everyone is a descendant of his clan - depends how reliable the original results were. Does look like someone I know...

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Re: Cheddar man on Ch 4 now
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2018, 08:55:33 pm »
Thanks martinr, saves me looking for it. I'd like to see the full paper when it's published, or at least the conclusions as I may be able to get my head around some of  them.

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Re: Cheddar man on Ch 4 now
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2018, 09:06:19 am »
Watched this last night. Heres what he looked like in 1904

https://www.flickr.com/photos/mendipcaveregistryarchive/5624251416