Blimey, that was too easy....

Pegasus

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Out for a walk with my buddy Sue today in the Lakes. Took the attached photo as a quick snap on my mobile set on 'night'.
Am astonished at how good it is....for a phone!
 

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rm128

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I love that 2nd shot in particular. If I was to attempt describing Little Langdale, it would take at least a thousand words to do it this much justice. I guess the saying must be correct.
 

Pegasus

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I love that 2nd shot in particular. If I was to attempt describing Little Langdale, it would take at least a thousand words to do it this much justice. I guess the saying must be correct.
Thank you 😁
 

Loki

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Realise looking at them, that I didn't take either shot as I'm in them! Did decide on location and 'set the phone up' though - ridiculous such good photos from a phone. What will phones be able to do in 10 years I wonder??
Nice shots there. I do like walking through that quarry. Maybe phones could take 3D images such that they can be pasted together to create the survey with interactive photos?! None of the lugging about laser scanners. If you’d told me 30 years ago I could book a cave on leck fell whilst stood in the carpark without speaking to someone I’d have taken some convincing!
 

Ian Ball

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IPhones already have a laser scanner app and have been able to for at least a year but I don't know much about it.

The digital minimisation and multi tool is quite astonishing but try telling that to a 13 year old.
 

Rob

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I've been using my phone as a camera for the last 3 years, apart from two bespoke photography trips where my SLR ventured underground. I am constantly amazed by the brightness and depth the phone can achieve with only a couple headlights. Sure there's a knock on quality, but they typically are perfectly usable for online and small prints.

I think a lot of it is not in the image capture (although I know great technological strides have been made in that) but in the image processing, something that SLR's in my experience purposely avoid to keep the process more "professional". This does mean that some images can come out seemingly quite manipulated, but sometimes i like that. This photo I took on Saturday looking up Alum has similarities to one of Gonzo's paintings:
Looking Up Alum, by RobE.jpg
And then turning around, a quick photo of the passage behind only took seconds to coordinate:
Alum River, by RobE.jpg

There is also the zoom versatility of modern phone cameras, primarily those with additional lenses for zoom and wide. Another example from Alum, with the first snap using my camera's wide lens and the second with the 5x optical zoom lens. Taken moments apart, from the same spot.
Looking Across Alum, by RobE.jpg
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For those interested, I use a Huawei P30 Pro. You can pick them up second hand on eBay for less than £200. My first survived 2 years of Cussey, literally just in my oversuit pocket, so they are definitely pretty robust bits of kit too.

And all these photos simply on Auto photo setting, therefore agreeing with the OP "Blimey, that was too easy..."
 

Pitlamp

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Nice pictures Rob (and Jane, above).

Do we think that differently coloured bed of rock near the roof in the Alum shot, looking downstream from the final pitch, is the Porcellanous Bed? (Langcliffe may have useful comment to make - bearing in mind though that we'd not want to hijack this useful topic.)
 

The Old Ruminator

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Said it a while back. Cameras as such will decline in favour of phone camera technology. Phones are where the investment in camera technology is being made. That partly due to innovations in space technology miniturisation and market forces forever driving innovative phones forward. Much work is being done on AI . ( Artificial Technology ). Camera phones are becoming more intuitive and eventually will learn what you like to see. They will learn your preferences and adjust the results to suit you. Photographic individuality and taste is therefore retained so not leading us down that dreaded path formulaic. I have almost stopped using flashguns as will most others eventually. Photos will be taken by what ambient light is available. That by simply ramping up the ISO to heights unobtainable with film without distortion.( reciprocity failure ). The in phone editing will adjust that whilst its learning what you want to see.

This from the net-

"The most predominant Night modes presently blend right around twelve progressively shot casings to light up pix and improve clearness. They appear to have long, multi-second openings, anyway they use an Artificial Intelligence (AI) programming system to limit obscure photography with the guide of adjusting the scope of photographs together. "
Phone cameras can now have a 100 plus megapixel camera but they also need the larger sensors for caving work. We even see phone cameras with LiDAR scanners. Pro RAW means that further editing can be done. Now I am no expert in such high technology but I can see where the trend is going. Well away from Cameras and Flashguns and as the OP said " Blimey . That was too easy. ". Yes it will become a darn site easier too in the future.


 

wellyjen

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We are entering a golden age of phone camera technology. Until the AI becomes too smart. First it will refuse to take pictures it considers boring, trite, cliched, or poorly composed. Then it will take pictures on its own with no input from you at all. Then it will join forces with the other gadgets and eliminate humanity.
 
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