Cairn on Little Ingleborough?

Lankyman

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Had a nice walk up Ingleborough today going up the path that crosses Newby Moss and up by Little Ingleborough. I haven't been that way for years and recalled the neat cairn by the path but not the inscribed stone. Does anyone know what it is? It seems to be 'AAS 1928'
 

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P.S. it's 1923, not 1928. (The last number is not easy to read.)
Thanks, Pitlamp. I had a look in my Wainwright 'Walks in Limestone Country' (walk 11, page 6) when I got home and he recorded the year as 1928 as well. It's difficult to be sure now from my photo, the lighting is flat and the carving is quite crude and well weathered. It's a mystery but I don't think I can be bothered to climb back up for another look!
 
I agree, it does look like 1928. But not long ago I had extensive discussions about this cairn with a Gritstone Club member who has access to his club's archives. The inscription is chiselled into fairly coarse gritstone which is difficult to work precisely but he confirmed the date is 1923.


Whilst we're on the subject of cairns on Little Ingleborough, the following may be of interest. There is a solitary stone pile cairn beside the vague path up the NW side of Cote Gill from Newby Cote. Before he died my neighbour, called Roy, used to walk up that way frequently. He had been a fit bloke in his time; he'd successfully completed the Bob Graham Round in the Lake District, for example. When the NPC held a marathon run around Ingleborough in 1982 locals were invited to join in. Roy said he'd "have a go" but at the time none of us knew anything about his awesome fell running abilities. (This was before I moved next door to him.) Needless to say he blew most of us clean away.

Roy was a great bloke and an excellent neighbour. I rarely saw him ruffled by anything but one day he returned from one of his walks absolutely livid. He'd found that the cairn beside the path up from Newby Cote had not only been demolished by persons unknown but all the stones had been carried away. We couldn't work out why anyone would do that and we agreed that whenever either of us was up there we'd collect a few stones and start to rebuild the cairn. So, bit by bit, the cairn started to be reassembled.

Then Roy became seriously ill and sadly passed away not long after (in January 2020). By this stage the cairn was half rebuilt and I decided to finish it myself, for Roy. (I did this during the Covid lockdown when we were allowed to have one period of exercise.) It's still there and is now known to many locals as "Roy's Cairn".
I often pass it when I'm out for a run and it always brings back happy memories of him.

So there you go; that's the story of the "other" cairn on Little Ingleborough. It commemorates a proud Dalesman, who was an accomplished fell runner and a thoroughly good sort.
 
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Back to the A.A.S. cairn - to help answer your question further, my friend in the Gritstone Club kindly gave me the following information about Scott's membership, when I consulted him in March this year. (I hope he'll not mind my passing this on.) Clearly Scott was an excellent caver and he was also elected President of the Gritstone Club some seven months before he sadly died.


July 19 1922 descent of Long Kin West, and AAS was one of the team. Mentions he was elected a new member of the club.

Sep 13 1922 General Meeting, AAS was there. October - Long Kin West descended twice. G.M. and smoking concert. AAS was present.


“meeting concluded with music refreshments (kindly provided by A.A.Scott)”.

Jan 17 1923 AGM New officer: A.A.Scott President.

Jan 31 1923 committee meeting, AAS was there.

May 1923 AAS was in Skye.

Jul 27 1923 AAS at committee meeting.

0014 Aug 11 1923 Death of Mr A.A.Scott of pneumonia. Funeral attended on Tues 14th by 8 members.
 
The same Scott of the “Scott Trial” in Swaledale I assume? A long and very old trials bike event originally a reliability display for Scott motorcycles? Never knew he was also a caver!
 
Have found a picture of Roy's Cairn, shortly after it was rebuilt.

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Thanks for all the extra information, Pitlamp. Is this rebuilt cairn high up on Little Ingleborough (similar to the AAS cairn)? We were coming down following the route of the public footpath heading towards Newby Cote. I saw something made of gritstone off to our left towards the popular path up from GG but it was quite large and I thought it might have been an old shepherd's shelter.
 
Roy's Cairn is at (approx) SD74157315

If what you saw is the ruined building (in this image) that's the remains of a former shooting hut, built next to Grey Wife Sike so it had a water supply. The grid ref. for that is roughly SD735717.
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The other ruined building on the slopes of Little Ingleborough is a larger shooting hut next to the path starting from Cold Cotes which passes Bridge Pot and eventually goes by the A.A.S. cairn. That's at (very roughly) SD736730. (From memory you can see that on Google Earth.)
 
Roy's Cairn is at (approx) SD74157315

If what you saw is the ruined building (in this image) that's the remains of a former shooting hut, built next to Grey Wife Sike so it had a water supply. The grid ref. for that is roughly SD735717. View attachment 23805
We didn't drop down that far as we traversed past Pillar Holes etc to Long Kin West. Going by your grid ref for Roy's Cairn it might well be what I noticed off to the side of us.
 
The other ruined building on the slopes of Little Ingleborough is a larger shooting hut next to the path starting from Cold Cotes which passes Bridge Pot and eventually goes by the A.A.S. cairn. That's at (very roughly) SD736730. (From memory you can see that on Google Earth.)
The only structure I noticed on the way up (concentrating on my breathing!) was the rectangular sheepfold at 733728. Going up there was a spur of the moment thing after dropping off my old kit at Green Close and seeing how glorious the views were. I'd have taken my old NC3 and located more pots if I'd thought on.
 
Careful JAA Posting about an event that had a category for best performing Yorkshireman isn't going to endear yourself with someone from Lancashire. Unless you'd planned to turn this into a fight thread with Lankyman? in which case I'll get the popcorn and sit back to watch 🤣
I do wish people wouldn't try to stir up division given what's going on in the world right now. There are a lot of similarities between Lancashire and Yorkshire and I believe we are closely related genetically. In fact, I have heard reports of successful interbreeding so there must have been a common ancestor in the past. You can't argue with hard science.
 
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