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CaveMaps - Moving to CNCC Hosting

the https url is broken
curl -v https://cavemaps.org
* Host cavemaps.org:443 was resolved.
* IPv6: (none)
* IPv4: 167.235.126.32
* Trying 167.235.126.32:443...
* Connected to cavemaps.org (167.235.126.32) port 443
* ALPN: curl offers h2,http/1.1
* (304) (OUT), TLS handshake, Client hello (1):
* CAfile: /etc/ssl/cert.pem
* CApath: none
* Recv failure: Connection reset by peer
* LibreSSL/3.3.6: error:02FFF036:system library:func(4095):Connection reset by peer
* Closing connection
curl: (35) Recv failure: Connection reset by peer

The http version loads but the maps page is currently broken. (blank page due to a 404)
Hopefully this is the right place to note this ?
 
The original site works for me.

The move to a new CNCC site is later in the year. According to the OP that is.
 
Correct, the new site is in the final phase of development. It will next go for testing with a small handful of volunteers, and a launch later in the year. We think you will be pretty pleased with the outcome 😃
 
Yes -
Code:
HTTP Error 404.3 - Not Found
for me too, although 403 is actually "Forbidden"

Anyway, in the meantime, find the copies I downloaded ages ago here
 
Thanks for that.
Just for interest this is the message from my browser (firefox)

HTTP Error 404.3 - Not Found​


The page you are requesting cannot be served because of the extension configuration. If the page is a script, add a handler. If the file should be downloaded, add a MIME map.​

 
The original site works for me.

The move to a new CNCC site is later in the year. According to the OP that is.
Most of the original is fine but if you follow the menu link to map
you get a blank page
I think this is down to upgrades to https / something no longer connected on the google side

[Info] Promoted URL from http://maps.google.com/maps?file=ap...1cl3vvWtz7hwTOd2xT29uZPfT4qtqRUyIuRxB7tUuoW4w to https (default.htm, line 10)
[Error] Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 403 (Forbidden) (base.css, line 0)
[Info] Promoted URL from http://maps.google.com/maps?file=ap...1cl3vvWtz7hwTOd2xT29uZPfT4qtqRUyIuRxB7tUuoW4w to https
[Error] Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 () (maps, line 0)
 
After six months of development (and over 100 hours of work by our Web Administrator), the new CaveMaps site is now live:


You can read all about it in the following news article:


However, if that's too long, here's a summary...
  • This is the culmination of 20 years of work by many people.
  • The new site is cavemaps.uk but the original cavemaps.org will forward.
  • Hundreds of new surveys have been added as part of the redevelopment.
  • Integrated into CNCC's website for click-through links to surveys from our cave info pages.
  • Intuitive interface and search which mirrors the look and categorisation of the original site.
  • Site should work on modern browsers and is fully mobile-device compatible.
  • Display surveys on-screen or download as image or PDF document.
  • New online system to allow contributors to upload surveys.
This is a brand new site, built from scratch, so there will inevitably be bugs/glitches; Please report them (and any suggestions for improvements, or any issues uploading surveys) to cavemaps@cncc.org.uk
 
It's working for me, although it's slow to load, though.
Hi Alanw, yes, it did seem a little sluggish earlier, but so too did our own CNCC website, so we suspect a server issue. It seems to be running perfectly fine now but drop us a PM if it is still running slowly for you so we can investigate.
 
its brilliant well done.
Will the uk map with cave locations be making a comeback or have I missed a link ?
Do you mean this...?


(From our main website, not CaveMaps, so it only includes caves within CNCC's database, but most of the major caves should be on there)?
 
New survey on CaveMaps

We’re pleased to add the survey of Draughting Hole / Missed Pot in Gretadale, courtesy of the combined exploration team from York CC, North York Moors CC, MSG and RRCPC:


As this is an extremely high resolution and complex survey, we have made it available using DeepZoom too.

This is a particularly exciting system in our region, entered in 2021 following a winter of digging. They quickly found themselves exploring a classic Northern Dales maze cave, but one which offers an astonishing diversity in passage. The scale of the project quickly expanded as every junction led to four more, hence the number of teams putting their name to the survey and ongoing work; an amazing collaboration.

The system was later joined by Missed Pot, only 100m away across the fell.

Scargill Mine, blocked close to the adit entrance, underlies the system and throughout the exploration of Draughting Hole, the team were fully expecting to find a way down into the mine, as Northern Dales mines so commonly intercept maze caves. This wasn’t to be, and it ended up being an obscure passage in Missed Pot which finally gave access to the mine, which is shown (in part) on the survey.

Later work connected a separate section of maze cave further along the adit into Draughting Hole via a previously overlooked tight passage, allowing a through-trip to be completed.

Missed Pot delivered further surprises in the form of some astonishing formations in the northern reaches, as showcased on the front cover of Descent 302. Sizeable chambers with wall to wall stal and straws of the kind that would be considered magnificent in phreatic caves, let alone maze caves which are often devoid of such things.

You can hear more, including some recent dye tracing work, in a talk at Hidden Earth this year:


Why not spend some time admiring the survey? This is a ‘work in progress’ version with some of the ‘trade routes’ marked in yellow and various annotations that you can probably work out (e.g. tt = too tight). There are also a shocking number of ?’s meaning open passage that nobody has yet been down, although the pace of expansion has now finally slowed to annual rather than monthly updates.

We expect lots more exciting news from this area. The ‘holy grail’ is the underground streamways formed by the various nearby sinks and which feed Eller Beck and Roughton Keld resurgences. Chris Curry gave an excellent talk on this ‘Cleasby Hill System’ at Hidden Earth last year, and this is a rapidly developing area to watch very closely as the team close in on this.

Anyone wishing to visit the system is advised to get in touch with York Caving Club (or anyone you know involved in the project - there are lots of them) so they can give the gamekeeper a heads-up text message (never a problem; this is done as a courtesy while teams are very regularly in the area with various digs) and offer some wise advice to ensure you don't get lost, as this is a VERY challenging system to navigate.


Would you like your survey adding to CaveMaps?

Use the ‘submit a survey’ function on our website; it’s dead easy!


Feel free to also send a little bit of back-story to pr@cncc.org.uk and we’ll happily promote it for you too.
 
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