Caving Politics in the Nineteenth Century

Are you sure? The content I have seen on repeated access to a page hasn't seemed to have had any obvious differences, and the home page of the website says: "Click any linked term inside an article to load its entry. New topics are documented at the moment of first access."
Apologies to SemiRetired caver..

Langcliffe you are correct, tested that confirms. The differences I'd see between two different viewings of the Swildon's Hole Expeditionary Survey article were due to *my* hallucinations not AI's
 
.... not to mention The Guild of Aspic and Sovereignty

If you search you can also find the Farage Doctrine of Perpetual Recalcitrance which is a legal and philosophical framework providing a theoretical justification for the deliberate and sustained opposition to any proposed action, regardless of its merit or expediency.
 
Best not to forget that most of the wrong information available online was entered by humans before AI was a thing (both erroneously and intentionally). The flatearthers on FB are a classic example of people winding up others by posting things they don't actually believe!
 
I particularly liked the entry on Harrogate. One could spend hours following links of ever-more-improbable balderdash - at least halupedia admits at the off that it's all bollocks. Love it :)
 
We seem to have flown miles away from the topic of recreational access rights in the C19.

Regarding NRW and Natural England and Defra claptrap about 'caving' not being an 'open air' recreation: the earliest political references to ‘open air’ and ‘recreation’ were in Parliamentary debates on the 1845 Inclosure Act, unless you know better. The same debate later referred to such as ‘exercise and recreation' implying they were the same thing.

Enter James Bryce MP:
• He introduced the first Bill for a "Right to Roam" in 1884
• It failed
• He introduced a Bill again every year until WW1
• These failed every time
• British Ambassador to USA 1907-13
• Later became First Viscount Bryce

Unfortunately Bryce died just before his right-to-roam vision became law in the 1922 Law of Property Act. Its 1925 version was a "tidy up" and is still on the statute book. Section 193 gives public rights, as distinct from commoners rights, to take “air and exercise” over Metropolitan and Urban commons which includes places like Ogof Draenen both "above ground" and in places "set apart from the surface" by virtue of the very broad definition of "land" within the Act, at section 205, as including "any strata or seam of minerals or substances in or under any land" as open access land.

The "open air" term returned after WW2 in various National Parks Acts to the future delight of those lovely people at Defra etc who wish to portray caving as an indoors activity like ballroom dancing, and not as an outdoors recreation, for the purpose of depriving caving of its statutory access rights as suits their private agenda.
 
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Umm, I think you've missed the entire point of the thread, as it's in idle chat, not National Access Discussions
 
I think a big problem in this age of mis-information appears to be many people's lack of critical thinking. It's been going on for many years, long before the rise of AI. I have a neighbour who confidently told me that COVID was spread by aircraft spraying it. When I challenged her over her conspiracy theory she got quite defensive (if you hear something along the lines of 'scientists don't know everything' then you know that person doesn't have a clue). People hoover this kind of twaddle up because it's easy and requires no more 'research' than viewing on a phone screen.
I look forward to when AI is actually much more reliable than the average person (it's probably already more reliable than the crazies), particularly if people start trusting it (once it is reliable) instead of the much less reliable 'crazies' media (e.g. Fox News, currently anything output by the US Government, etc.).

Then hopefully the crazies will go 'I heard that Biden/Trump eats babies for breakfast/dinner! Is that true?' and the AI will go 'no' and they will believe it...
 
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