Covid travel restrictions and Police fines etc.
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andrewmcleod
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I suspect they were fined because there were three of them, not because they weren't exercising locally.
andrewmcleod
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mikem said:
What's doubtful - that they are from the same family/bubble, or they aren't?
The police up here have been driving around and 'sending people away' from sites like Ribblehead, Storrs Common and even Kingsdale if they aren't 'local' (they are using 10 miles as a guideline); I think I have heard that often these cars are breaching the rules in some actually illegal way (like having more than one household/two people in).
andrewmcleod
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Couldn't edit my previous post for some reason following edit to quote:
>> Police quoted as saying the fine was because the trip was "unnecessary".
I guess either the police decided the trip wasn't for exercise or the offenders never tried to claim it was.
>> Police quoted as saying the fine was because the trip was "unnecessary".
I guess either the police decided the trip wasn't for exercise or the offenders never tried to claim it was.
JoshW
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mikem said:
The system is rigged to not allow fair representation.
2% of those who voted, get 0% representation in parliament (brexit party), yet 43% of those who vote can get a 56% majority, based on our existing first past the post system.
I've never voted blue, and never will, but it makes absolutely no difference in my constituency, and I can understand people's apathetic views towards voting.
JoshW
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PeteHall said:
The 2011 referendum had nothing to do with PR. it was alternative vote vs FPTP
Edit: and that kind of stumbles upon a possible reason for low voter turnout - lack of understanding over what was voted for. I don't think alternative voting actually offers any better representation than FPTP and has some of the same stumbling blocks.
badger
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first past the post you end up with UKIP (not my choice by any means) end up with more votes in what ever election cant remember, more votes but only 2 seats as opposed the SNP who had less votes but 30 seats number of seats may not be quite correct, but you get the picture.
Time for this country to evolve to Proportional representation, I know it also has its downfalls but better than first past the post,
but all of this is getting away from the original post, which would be easy to sort by government putting a distance to what they think is reasonable distance to travel for exercise. But whatever guidence/legal is in place, there is always people who will push the limits
Time for this country to evolve to Proportional representation, I know it also has its downfalls but better than first past the post,
but all of this is getting away from the original post, which would be easy to sort by government putting a distance to what they think is reasonable distance to travel for exercise. But whatever guidence/legal is in place, there is always people who will push the limits
JoshW
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PeteHall said:
Or they had no interest in endorsing a shoddily worded referendum (shock horror another one!).
The wording of that referendum should have been:
Should Westminster consider replacing FPTP with another system of voting, including but not limited to alternative voting and proportional representation?
[] Yes
[] No
You'd then hope that the majority would vote yes, the government would put forwards information on each of the possible options, with pros and cons, and put forwards to a secondary referendum.
What we actually got was a straight choice between the status quo and a system marginally better in some ways, but that doesn't fundamentally alter the key issue of representation.
Not wanting to sidetrack this discussion (even more!) but Brexit actually had the highest turnout since the 1992 election - although only slightly above 1997:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1050929/voter-turnout-in-the-uk/
The Tories did at least get more votes overall than Labour, unlike Trump, who got less than Hilary.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1050929/voter-turnout-in-the-uk/
The Tories did at least get more votes overall than Labour, unlike Trump, who got less than Hilary.
