crap left in Swildons

bubba

Administrator
cap 'n chris said:
My personal view on the Swildon's Hole roadsign is that it serves no useful purpose*; I'll leave it to others to determine whether or not it deserves to remain where it is.

I think the roadsign is class - I never knew about it until I saw it and me and my mate pissed ourselves.
 

Slug

Member
Call Me a cynic if You will, but is'nt it possable that the actual " Experiment" was to see how people react to having bits of blue carpet on strings dangled all over Mendip........................WE ARE THE "MICE". 8) :p :LOL: :LOL:
 

cap n chris

Well-known member
Yes, Slug; it did occur to me that perhaps the experiment was to see how long it took before A) anyone noticed, B) anyone said anything and C) anyone removed them. :wink:
 

Peter Burgess

New member
Yes, Slug; it did occur to me that perhaps the experiment was to see how long it took before A) anyone noticed, B) anyone said anything and C) anyone removed them.

Find out who did it, fill his garden up with plastic gnomes, see (a) how long it takes for them to notice, (b) when they first complain, and (c) how long it takes for them to remove them. Whatever angle you take on this business, it was unacceptable to leave foreign material in a cave and expect someone else to clear it up.
 
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andymorgan

Guest
Surely it's the farmers concern about stuff left on his land, not ours.....
 

Johnny

New member
Slug said:
Call Me a cynic if You will, but is'nt it possable that the actual " Experiment" was to see how people react to having bits of blue carpet on strings dangled all over Mendip........................WE ARE THE "MICE". 8) :p :LOL: :LOL:

If this is the case I would love to see the psychological profile they produce for the person who reacted like this;

Andy Sparrow said:
I feel that the caving establishment should take this very seriously. I will be requesting CSCC to write to the club demanding an explanation. If no satisfactory explanation is forthcoming I think the club should be expelled from CSCC and banned from using Mendip caving club facilities.

What is "the caving establishment"? I hope to god that I am not part of it.
 

Slug

Member
If this is the case I would love to see the psychological profile they produce for the person who reacted like this;

Andy Sparrow said:
I feel that the caving establishment should take this very seriously. I will be requesting CSCC to write to the club demanding an explanation. If no satisfactory explanation is forthcoming I think the club should be expelled from CSCC and banned from using Mendip caving club facilities.

What is "the caving establishment"? I hope to god that I am not part of it.[/quote]

........I'm not going anwhere near that one 8).............I know when to quit . Would'nt want to hurt a mans livelyhood.......................:p
All joking aside though, leaving any kind of crap, in or around any cave is simply unacceptable. It can not only pollute the cave, but often lead to strained relationships between the Caver and the Landowner.









Who knows what "The Caving Establishment" would make of it :wink:
 
Whether this incident was the result of carelessness, ignorance or bloody-mindeness, the draconian measures suggested are not justified. Although some people had to go to the trouble of clearing the mess up (well done there, Cap'n Chris) the cave was not damaged, so let's hope the matter ends with an apology from the culprits.
The position on Mendip has improved in recent years, but most crap found in caves is the result of abandoned digs, but it was left by the caving establishment so that's all right.
 

cap n chris

Well-known member
A very good point, Mr. C, and well worthy of further comment. What do cavers think about digs which have been left alone for a long while - i.e. years? When is a dig no longer considered "active"? Discuss.

I know of at least one club which has as part of its digging plans an end plan to remove dig related equipment/spare materials once the enthusiasm has lost momentum.
 

Stupot

Active member
They are at it agian ............... met a guy in Swildon's today from Reading University with 4 or 5 carpet faces hanging from his belt, after a lenghty conversation with him i managed to grasp a basic understanding of what he was trying to achive, apparently it's a study to do with stress and how people cope with it in different enviroments i.e. above ground and then underground, now iam sure there is more to it, although to be honest he baffled me abit.

In the guy's defence he was removing them from the cave and he seemed a pretty switched on caver.

Stu.
 

graham

New member
For those think that this behaviour was fairly innocuous, just imagine the response of the BEC if they'd tried this down St. Cuthbert's.
 

Stupot

Active member
Iam not getting involved with the politics of the issue, i also don't agree with anything that does not serve a purpose to cavers underground.

All Iam doing is relaying what i saw and heard today, this guy was doing his "experiment" as part of his degree at university, his dissertation is due in a couple of weeks, i say give the guy a break, at least he ain't some drug taking yob who does'nt give a toss for anyone or anything.

So i think we should all just let it go and hope he get's a good mark :D

I know there will be whole load of but what abouts ..................

But i have a whole load of Ssssshhhhhhhhhhh's to follow.

Stu.
 
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tubby two

Guest
Wish i could do a degree where i had to 'work' down a cave. Not been underground since christmas, or done much at all since christmas other than cry in the library.
Although i could maybe persuade my supervisor the 'dent des crolles' is something dental (dent means tooth dosent it?) and worthy of a few weeks 'field trip'?!?!

tt.
 

Rhys

Moderator
graham said:
For those think that this behaviour was fairly innocuous, just imagine the response of the BEC if they'd tried this down St. Cuthbert's.

To go down St Cuthberts you have to be accompanied by an official leader. I suspect that the leader would've put a stop to the activity before it even started, so it's not really a fair comparison.

Rhys
 

pisshead

New member
tubby two said:
i could maybe persuade my supervisor the 'dent des crolles' is something dental (dent means tooth dosent it?) and worthy of a few weeks 'field trip'?!?!

That's gotta be worth a try...maybe I can convince my supervisor that studying the development of the very few types of plant that grow underground would be a useful comparison to my studies of tobacco...??
 

graham

New member
Rhys said:
graham said:
For those think that this behaviour was fairly innocuous, just imagine the response of the BEC if they'd tried this down St. Cuthbert's.

To go down St Cuthberts you have to be accompanied by an official leader. I suspect that the leader would've put a stop to the activity before it even started, so it's not really a fair comparison.

Rhys

Hmm, so that means Swildons is fair game for any sort of mess, just because a nanny isn't required?
 
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darkplaces

Guest
Does that mean ALL caves and mines now require a nanny?

I prefer the peer pressure idea, if someone makes a mess everyone else makes it public and scornes them. Personally what this student is doing as a degree sounds about as usefull as 'media studies' (watching TV) and should be named and shamed. Not enough shaming going on in our current society, ooo might hurt someones feelings.. My furry ass.

Cap 'n Chris - I'd charge who ever put the tiles up for your very valuable time it took to remove them.
 

graham

New member
c**tplaces said:
Does that mean ALL caves and mines now require a nanny?

I prefer the peer pressure idea, if someone makes a mess everyone else makes it public and scornes them. Personally what this student is doing as a degree sounds about as usefull as 'media studies' (watching TV) and should be named and shamed. Not enough shaming going on in our current society, ooo might hurt someones feelings.. My furry ass.

Cap 'n Chris - I'd charge who ever put the tiles up for your very valuable time it took to remove them.

Yes, lets tell people what naughty boys they've been after they've trashed a cave.
 
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