French SRT videos

[andrewmcleod]

Saw this playlist of videos linked from the Berger FB group. No idea what is being said as I don't speak French

Linking to the third video to show the different approach to that normally used in the UK for a knot pass - the French seem much happier (not entirely unreasonably, I admit) to hang off a single ascender than us. Similar things are in the next video and the ones showing an up-to-down changeover.

Mind you I was surprised when I was looking up stuff in Alpine Caving Techniques the other day - correct technique as recorded in that hallowed tome is to be attached to a rebelay by nothing other than a single snapgate cowstail even when that cowstail is not weighted (there is a picture explicitly showing this as well)

 

[Flotsam]

The technique is known as "Frogging"

 

[BigDyl]

Are all the videos by the same people? Could it just be them doing it incorrectly?

 

[langcliffe]

Are all the videos by the same people? Could it just be them doing it incorrectly?

It might not be the way that many people perform the manoeuvre, but there's nothing incorrect about it. It's safe, and it's efficient. I think I'll have a go at it some time.

 

[BigDyl]

It might not be the way that many people perform the manoeuvre, but there's nothing incorrect about it. It's safe, and it's efficient. I think I'll have a go at it some time.

I suppose so yeah. Would be nice to have that extra point of attachment with cows tails just in case imo aha

 

[Cantclimbtom]

It's

I suppose so yeah. Would be nice to have that extra point of attachment with cows tails just in case imo aha

It's quick/easy to tie a knot in the rope below you and clip it whichever method you use descending past a knot, that gives you belt+braces as no matter what mess you could make, you shouldn't be able to go too wrong.

I might try testing the short cowstail into the top of the hand hammer method. That looks way slicker than the approach I use of clip Kroll just above the descender (maybe a down-jumar move or two) then do a changeover back to the descender once below the knot. I like the look of it!!

 

[BigDyl]

It's

It's quick/easy to tie a knot in the rope below you and clip it whichever method you use descending past a knot, that gives you belt+braces as no matter what mess you could make, you shouldn't be able to go too wrong.

I might try testing the short cowstail into the top of the hand hammer method. That looks way slicker than the approach I use of clip Kroll just above the descender (maybe a down-jumar move or two) then do a changeover back to the descender once below the knot. I like the look of it!!

Exactly this!!

 

[langcliffe]

I suppose so yeah. Would be nice to have that extra point of attachment with cows tails just in case imo aha

I would definitely use cows tails whilst I was building up confidence in the technique. Once I had the confidence, who knows?

 

[Fulk]

It's quick/easy to tie a knot in the rope below you and clip it whichever method you use descending past a knot

When descending past a knot I make sure that there's a long end sticking out of the upper rope so that I can tie a knot in this (well, if i'm rigging).