• CNCC's 2026 Annual General Meeting - Saturday 21st March

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Head Torch sub £50

benshannon

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im after a head torch for my girlfriend to go on her helmet. She caves infrequently at present so not really keen on spending £100+ yet. any recommendations for a light that would reliably work in a cave for that money?
 
Fenix HM60R - £82.75

Several other Fenix models for a few pounds more.

There's also the HM50R for £62.51
 
Fenix HM23r. They have a V2 now for a couple bucks more but I can't vouch for it. They're both IP68 waterproof.

The HM23r was my go-to light to equip my kids, then backup lights. I think I have (4) of them now. They're around $35 USD. Uses a single AA battery, gives a good life on the medium setting, and the high/240 lumen setting is 'bright enough' for occasional use. I wear one like a necklace as a backup light.


The V2 has better specs and more features, but I fear it's not as 'simple' as the original version.




The Fenix HM61r V2 is a fine light by any standard. Sells for $90 USD. Uses a single 18650 battery, and has proven pretty robust for me. I have (4) of these as well now. (I've also been experimenting with some 3D-printed mounts for these as well.)



(I'm taking some first-timers caving tonight, and each of us will be equipped with a 61r, and a 23r for backups.)
 
I've also got a Convoy H1 headtorch. I was using it only last weekend at Fairport Convention's Cropredy music festival (with an unannounced appearance by Robert Plant). Very good for finding your way back in a crowd of 3000 people over a narrow canal bridge to your tent. I'm very pleased with it, solid build, reliable so far, but it doesn't have the reputation amongst cavers that Fenix has. Cheap, though, about £20 to £30 +VAT (depending on model) from Aliexpress or Banggood. I see that there's now newer models, at least H2 and H4 for about the same price.

For Aliexpress, buy from an "official store" with lots of sales and a good reputation.

There's a good FAQ on reddit. Try and buy from "Choice" sellers or "Free Shipping" (there are buttons to select this). Choice orders over £8 get free delivery. Note that there are often several choices available, e.g. colour temperature. Note also that some unprincipled sellers (but not official stores) will lure you in with what seems to be a cheap deal, but the offer you want isn't the default choice.

Convoy Official Store
 
Fenix HM23r. They have a V2 now for a couple bucks more but I can't vouch for it. They're both IP68 waterproof.

The HM23r was my go-to light to equip my kids, then backup lights. I think I have (4) of them now. They're around $35 USD. Uses a single AA battery, gives a good life on the medium setting, and the high/240 lumen setting is 'bright enough' for occasional use. I wear one like a necklace as a backup light.


The V2 has better specs and more features, but I fear it's not as 'simple' as the original version.




The Fenix HM61r V2 is a fine light by any standard. Sells for $90 USD. Uses a single 18650 battery, and has proven pretty robust for me. I have (4) of these as well now. (I've also been experimenting with some 3D-printed mounts for these as well.)



(I'm taking some first-timers caving tonight, and each of us will be equipped with a 61r, and a 23r for backups.)
I use the hm23 as my backup backup, works alright but only takes a AA not a li-ion rechargeable as standard.
 
I use the hm23 as my backup backup, works alright but only takes a AA not a li-ion rechargeable as standard.
We use these rechargeable NiMH AA's in them. I don't think they give the same life as standard alkaline batteries, but they work well enough in the HM23's, and a spare AA takes up nothing in the pack.


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It depends very much on your requirements. Draw up some "must haves", "nice to haves", and "don't wants". Mine are:

Must haves:
  • Can produce at least 125 lumens for a decent length of time
  • At least IPX7 and decently robust
  • Sensible head mount
  • Good user interface (e.g. lockout, sensible brightness ramps)
Nice to haves:
  • Beam shape
  • Light quality
    • Temperature
    • Colour rendering
  • Replaceable batteries (18650)
  • Top button
Don't wants:
  • Unnecessary features
    • Secondary colours
    • Onboard charging
    • Flashing lights
    • Powerbank mode
  • External batteries
I outline my reasoning for these choices in a post on my blog - I'll link it as it's lengthy: https://cooper-davis.net/blog/caving-torches

I'd suggest taking a look at:
 
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Another thing to take into account is whether the battery is replaceable (useful on long trips) and whether there is a built in charger over USB (C these days). If there is just a rubber plug over the charging port it may risk compromising water resistance. Otherwise you will need to take a charger with you.
 
I use the Fenix HM23 as a backup light. It's tiny, robust and gives a good light. Did a whole trip on it once as my main light failed at the entrance (loose connection). No massive passages but decent sized ones and the output from the lamp was fine. A single battery did me fine for a few hours in the cave. I use the same rechargeable AAs as JAshley73.
 
Must haves:

  • Good user interface (e.g. lockout, sensible brightness ramps)
I've got the Fenix FM 60 which IMHO has an overly complicated interface, rather than just ramp from one brightness to another you have to switch modes, holding down the button for 1.2 seconds (whoever came up with the idea of 1.2 seconds?) to get from one mode to another. It seems to have a mind of its own so I tend to get the brightness I want at the start of a trip and just leave it alone for the whole trip. (also its fine on a helmet, but not at all comfotable as just a headtorch, for daily headtorch use, I use a cheap Decathlon one.)
 
Just my two cents:
I bought the HM23 as a backup, yet for whatever reason it barely seems to last 10 minutes at full brightness before automatically enforcing a dimmer setting. I've tried several batteries now, including the one it came with.
 
Just my two cents:
I bought the HM23 as a backup, yet for whatever reason it barely seems to last 10 minutes at full brightness before automatically enforcing a dimmer setting. I've tried several batteries now, including the one it came with.
Yeah, that's probably to be expected unfortunately. Running 240 lumens from a AA battery is probably too much demand for more than a few minutes. I'd be curious to know if the 'throttling' is due to the battery overheating, or the light's circuitry, or both... (I'm sure some of the electronics gurus on here know.)

For a couple dollars more, one could get the 23v2 and use the USB-rechargeable battery, which is supposed to offer extended runtimes, together bight right around that £50 mark.



What's interesting is that I do most of my caving with my 61 at the 'level 2' setting, which is only 50 lumens. The battery life is outstanding, and I find it plenty bright enough for navigating all but big rooms, where you want to enjoy the view. Plus, at these lower settings, there's less chance that you'll be blinding others. (And hopefully the rest of the party does likewise!)

If one is content with the 50-lumens, both the 23 and the 23v2 should realistically give that 50 lumen(ish) output for over an hour. I say that because my kids use the 23, and we don't really notice it fading much on the medium/level-2 output.

So while I wouldn't want to use a 23 or 23v2 as my primary for long, it's a great 'starter' lamp for someone, that also serves as a great backup light.
 
im after a head torch for my girlfriend to go on her helmet. She caves infrequently at present so not really keen on spending £100+ yet. any recommendations for a light that would reliably work in a cave for that money?
100% go for the Sofirn HS20. You can currently get it for £15 off the sofirn website and it’s almost as good as any Fenix. Takes 18650 batteries (flat top or button top), is very bright, great battery life, have used mine as a primary light for swildons sump 9 via 2&3 twice, done a weekend digging in aggy wirh it and east water southbank roundtrip (all trips that get lots of grit and water submersion on head torches) and it’s held up completely unscathed. It’s brilliant!
 
100% go for the Sofirn HS20
The only reason this isn't on my list is because it has USB charging onboard which I consider unwanted (more weight, more to go wrong, will be worse for my batteries than my proper charger etc.). You may not consider this to be an issue.

It's also quite a cold white light (6500K).
 
The only reason this isn't on my list is because it has USB charging onboard which I consider unwanted (more weight, more to go wrong, will be worse for my batteries than my proper charger etc.). You may not consider this to be an issue.

It's also quite a cold white light (6500K).
theres two models one has a warmer light i believe (dont quote me on that though)
 
I've got a Sofirn HS20, I really like it apart from the battery life. I'm finding I only get 4 hours at light setting 3 on the throw side rather than the quoted 8 hours.
 
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