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Home-made knee pads

tim.rose2

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For the last few months I've been experimenting with making my own knee pads. Having now got a design that works I thought I'd share...

The reason for bothering is simple - the caving I do is generally very tough on the knees and I've found the commercially available pads to be;
  1. Quite thin, needing something like volley ball knee pads underneath to avoid bruises.
  2. Rather expensive (every time I buy a pair the price seems to be higher).
  3. Fall apart under the battering I give them way too quickly considering the price. I'd say I get about 10 trips before I have to getting the sowing kit out, then perhaps another ten before they're ready for the bin. The issue is always the same, the stitching holding the straps on falls apart. I've tried re-stitching and I've tried smattering the stitching in glue / aquasure before first use. These things do prolong the life, but not to an extent I'm happy with.

So I decided to come up with a design that doesn't have a joint between the pad and strap and also doesn't involve any stitching. Before anybody asks, I've zero intention of making knee pads for anyone else / selling them, so please feel free to make use of the info here, make your own, but don't ask me to make them for you!

The first thing you'll need is a pattern. I'd recommend measuring the diameter of your leg above the knee and then using half of this as your primary length. For me, my leg diameter is 42cm, so the critical length is 21cm. So 3 x 21xcm along the top, 3 x 19cm along the bottom, kneepad height of 20cm, strap height of 6cm. You need something along the lines of the following:

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It's probably obvious how this is going to work. Trace around you're template onto some 5 mm neoprene. A chinagraph pencil is very useful:

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You'll need two, one for each leg...
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And then a couple of rubber pads. The measurements are on the template.
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Rough up the back of the rubber pads with sand paper (this is really important otherwise they'll not stick) and then spread a layer of sikaflex over it. You do need to spread an even layer. This is messy! Pallet wrap & many pairs of rubber gloves is good for mess prevention. This is definitely a job for the garage and not the kitchen work top.

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Apply the rubber pad to the neoprene and apply more sikaflex around the edges...
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Smatter about (don't bother trying to be neat) and cover in pallet wrap. You can use clingfilm, but pallet wrap is definitely better / easier.
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Wood (wrapped in pallet wrap) on both sides and apply moderate pressure with a g-clamp or two. Don't over tighten, you don't want to completely crush the neoprene to oblivion. Leave overnight to set.
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Apply sikaflex to the neoprene which will be wrapped around and stuck to the underside of the rubber pad. Again spread a good even coverage.
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This time a third piece of wood in the middle to help it hold it's shape. Light compression, overnight to dry.
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Trim up the edges and smatter in more sikaflex. Basically I've apply sikaflex to all edges - this is extremely messy, but feels like the right thing to do.
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Leave to dry and you have knee pads:
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My current pair in use have done around 20 trips and are still going strong:
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Costs/Materials...

A pair of knee pads will eat most of a tube of sikaflex. The last load I bought was 3 tubes for £20 from Ebay. So we'll call that £7 per pair.

The rubber for the knees; 1.5 mm SBR rubber from Camthorne Industrial Supplies (again via Ebay). I bought a 500 x 1000 mm sheet for £16.20, enough for 7 pairs if you're careful how you cut it. Let's call that £3 per pair.

5mm Neoprene; This comes from Lomo. A sheet of 1000mm x 1260 costed £33.80 (inc. delivery). This is enough for 4 pairs, so lets call that £8.50 per pair.

That gives a total cost of <£20 per pair of knee pads, assuming you get it right first time (I didn't). You might need to factor in a role of pallet wrap & box of disposable gloves too.

If you've not used sikaflex before, I cannot understate how shitty this stuff is and how messy making knee pads like this is. Do not do this in your kitchen! That said I think it's worth it.

Happy to answer questions.
 

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A quick sikaflex tip stolen straight from French canyon forums - if you want it more easily spreadable you can warm the tube in a water bath. They also recommend a water and dish soap mix applied to whatever tool (or body part) you use to spread the sikaflex around. It largely prevents it sticking and allows for a fairly smooth surface (which they insist is more durable...)

They use these two in combo for applying sikaflex to cheap wetsuits that need knee/arm protection

Might be a well known tip, but it was new to me so thought I'd share
 
I picked up a pair of Lidl finest, £5.99.

If I were being picky, I would prefer knee pads that went further down my shin. One reason I always go for long wetsocks.
 
@tim.rose2 should be on the New Year's honours list for services to caving! The quest for the perfect, and affordable, knee pad has always seemed an impossible dream!
 
Just as an update for those interested...
The first pair (made approx. Sept25 - last photo on my original post) are still going strong. The knee pads I made for the 'how-to' photos are still sat in the box of spares unused. I'm averaging around 4 trips a month (though I have just done 7 trips in 2 weeks). I guess they must be somewhere in the region of 40 to 50 trips in total now. This includes caves in Yorkshire, Wales, Mendip and of course Portland. Portland is definitely the hardest on them. I'm still waiting to find out what the failure point will be. They're looking a bit battered/frayed around the semi-circular cut out between the straps and also one of the joins in the straps is starting to come apart - I could easily repair this, but I'm not going to in the name of science! Plus that bit doesn't really matter as it's only an overlap for additional strength rather than anything structural. They've already out lived anything I've bought for a very long time and way exceeded my expectations.
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I'll post again when they finally fall apart (or wear out).

Anyone else had a go at making knee pads like this?
 
Excellent work and an informative write-up, thanks.
I have quite a few old sets of neepads and am thinking a variation of this process may work to repair them.
I will post how I get on (may not happen immediately, though).
 
Brilliant and thanks for sharing. From my endeavours I'd recommend putting some sikaflex over the join between the rubber and neoprene. The rubber did start to peel off on the first pair I made, but I've not had that issue since sanding the back of the rubber to give a rough surface and applying black sloppy over the join.

As an update, since my last post the current pair have been to the Sump at the bottom of Avalanche Pot in Thrupe and done the Swildons Short Round including Swynne Puke on route. Still no significant deterioration.
 
Brilliant and thanks for sharing. From my endeavours I'd recommend putting some sikaflex over the join between the rubber and neoprene. The rubber did start to peel off on the first pair I made, but I've not had that issue since sanding the back of the rubber to give a rough surface and applying black sloppy over the join.

As an update, since my last post the current pair have been to the Sump at the bottom of Avalanche Pot in Thrupe and done the Swildons Short Round including Swynne Puke on route. Still no significant deterioration.
It has sikaflex around the outside. I just forgot roughly up the rubber on the front so it just peeled off. You can kinda see where it’s peeled off around the outside. And where my girlfriend did a smiley face😂
 
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