Simple Cave Video With TG 6

The Old Ruminator

The Old Ruminator

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Thanks Roger. Did it both ways but carrying the set up works best rather than head mounted. Will try some more next Tuesday. ( not much else to do )
 
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I might run this thread on with shorts as the link from Internet Archive seems to work. Expect only fun and burble though. With the TG 6 on default settings you would have to keep the run time under 4 minutes to get less than one Gb. I find it easy to film in short sections. ( which are easily repeated ). Caving tomorrow and Tuesday so will see what happens. Both sites will be in awkward conditions. Then again I might get despondant and give up.
 
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Still just cant make Youtube work although I have a logged in account. Wont respond to any create/upload either on Firefox or Chrome. The main video going on Internet Archive if I ever get a link to post here. I set the gear up on a helmet then towed it in going backwards down the tube. Then I hand carried it to the end of the little cave dig. Pleased with the effort considering it was difficult. The towed plan worked well remembering to leave my own light off.
 
The Old Ruminator

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Another jpeg from the video. Video played on VLC free programme then paused. Click video then snapshot. The file will download at over 2mb but any work on Photoshop will reduce the res. considerably. I still say that its an easy route to get reasonable images particularly in a hurry. Another go tomorrow. This a Photoshop image via Photobucket but I could have use Flickr.

 
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VLC saves the image as PNS . Photobucket can be used to convert to jpeg. The remote hauling in occurred to me whilst in the bath. It worked very well in the confined tube. I can think of other ways for doing that.

 
The Old Ruminator

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Keep on splodging --

By skipping though frames you can find the best composition. I would not have got this on a still image as he moved too quickly. No need to ask for that posed shot which can be all to formulaic. ( in my view ).

 
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Fulk

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I've been quite interested in the operations you've been performing – but could you tell us, please – what's the function of the diving line?
 
The Old Ruminator

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Fulk said:
I've been quite interested in the operations you've been performing – but could you tell us, please – what's the function of the diving line?
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The diving line was pulling the helmet with the camera and torch mounted along the tube facing me. The idea works well in confined spaces.
 
Steve Clark

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Assuming MS windows :

You can take a snapshot in VLC whilst the video is playing by pressing SHIFT+S. it saves them in the usual My Pictures place.

You can change the format to jpg by going to preferences / simple preferences / video / video snapshots in VLC. Options to change the directory, format and how the pictures are labelled.
 
The Old Ruminator

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Thanks Steve. I am pretty dumb really about these things. This is a Flickr image of a VLC Snapshot. My support coming down. Daylight can be seen through the cap entrance tube. Also the underside of the top platform and 13 foot scaffold pole braced across. Kit drop line with the knots. Stringmens line as well. Mine timber left in situ. Image from video taken at the 20m platdorm prior to filming video 2.

https://flic.kr/p/2nnBriP
 
Roger W

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The headlamp lighting gave a good impression of "what the caver'sees." But slow, smooth movement is the key to success, I think.
 
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Roger W said:
The headlamp lighting gave a good impression of "what the caver'sees." But slow, smooth movement is the key to success, I think.
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Certainly correct but like my many photos I approach cave photography in a " journalistic " sort of way. I like to see things as they happen and I have said so many times that much of what we see is formulaic. The same approach with posed models and backwards lighting. All technically perfect but for me something is missing. Maybe that something is immediacy. A certain sense of adventure. I try to capture a bit of that in my own lazy way hoping to show that cave photography is just not for the artistic photographers with good kit and long set ups. The awful current trend in photography is in the arduous editing resulting in something garish and unnatural. All made worse by the so many apps that can transform an image. Even adding a sunset that did not exist. Of course taste and perception moves on and in a way I am locked in the past. If I am rattling about on a ladder with a drysuit thats how it is. Its more reality than if the whole thing was contrived in some way. You all know about my splodging. Its been going on a long time. In trying to let folk see how easy it can all be. Somehow its really been a failure. There is still not enough images here. Far less than I see in my collectors forum. Yet caving is so visual. Colours and shapes, adventure, disappointment and reward. Personally challenging and fulfilling. You even have a blank canvas as a start. ( Its rather dark ). Are we seduced by technology ? Do we feel we need the best in phones and cameras when something cheaper and simpler can fulfill a need ? Are we losing our creative skills when technology provides the app or edit that can make our image anything we want it to be ? Perhaps we feel obliged to use that technology. AI gives us that route. Future cameras will exist only as phones . They will become more intuitive. Ultimately giving something it believes that we want to see. Is there any element of soul or self that way ? Is the photographer creative or the camera/phone clever ? Yup OK I am very new to cave video. Much of the technology around it confounds me. I cant even make Youtube upload things. I am learning techniques rather than accessing more technology. I hope to carry on this thread using and improving the small basics I have already learned. Roger is correct about the movement. I can improve on that. The drysuit video lastly seen was so awkward to do. I had to have the gear head mounted. I was not happy on the ladder nor in the water. I have residual concerns about floating about in a drysuit after getting lost that way at sea for 16 hours. I guess the video was more about helping the project than a visual treat here.
I am rather pleased with the still images I get from video. Yes not technically perfect but allowing me more input by going frame to frame. In a way I find the stills more rewarding than the video. Immediacy comes that way. The one never to be repeated moment. An expression or movement thats not posed or contrived. To be honest at age 75 I am rather pleased that I have energy for caving at all. We have lots of fun. Yesterdays effort was rounded off by a cream tea in the woods. Hopefully I can carrying on for a few more years yet and whitter and splodge here on the forum. Caving again tomorrow. Yipee.
 
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