Srt recommendations in the dales
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samueld
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Probably a good start would be downloading the full set of CNCC rigging topos (https://cncc.org.uk/caving/topos/) and having a scroll through to see what looks like the amount of SRT you're after.
Then check out their descriptions
Then check out their descriptions
samueld
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This CHECC page is also a useful resource if you're new to the dales https://checc.org/caving-around-the-uk/student-caving-trip-options-in-the-yorkshire-dales/
dougle89
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Bull pot kingsdale is pretty good, lost johns, notts pot too. Yordas packs a lot of SRT in
Rikaaay1
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Yeah I did a search before posting and had this issue, thanks for the link. I've also tried looking on cavemaps.org a few times but for some reason the map never loads. When I've been caving in the peaks, my main source of info has been peakdistrictcaving.info, but not been able to find as much for northern caves, although I do have a guidebook.
Loki
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We’re you thinking of this? https://northerncaves.co.uk/ Specifically about the guide books.
On cavemaps, the thumbnails aren't links. In some cases there's only the thumbnail; if there is a full size image there will be a link to the right.
alanw
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Ari Cooper-Davis has an on-line calculator: you enter the lengths of rope you have and it shows you the caves you can do
What Can I Rig?
What Can I Rig?
Rikaaay1
Member
Yeah this is the guidebook I already have.
Rikaaay1
Member
It's when I click on map at the top of the page, this is all I get.
Rikaaay1
Member
That sounds interesting, I'll have a look into that one. Thanks
Rikaaay1
Member
That's fantastic, I never knew this existed, thanks
Cantclimbtom
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Providing you and others in your party aren't on the larger size (because of a short narrow bit at the very start of the first pitch) Bar Pot is one to consider. If you have 1*40m, 1*60m ropes and an optional but very useful 2 * 5m bits of rope. One as a hand line for the "greasy slab" and the other to help pull sideways to get off the first pitch when you exit (can explain that is you decide to go). an optional but recommended! hand line on greasy slab will be welcome on your way out. IMHO the benefits of Bar Pot are:
* Nice big car park, with loo
* Very pleasant walk up (especially if you pay the £2.50 and walk up the nature trail, although you can walk up a lane past a farm instead of you don't want to pay)
* A "watering hole" by the car park
* Easy navigation, follow a big path
* Good route description available in CNCC website with rigging guide
* Simple SRT, this is "chuck a rope down a hole" territory, no rebelays or rope ninja skills
* Videos and info on YouTube so you can research what the entrance looks like and no worries you're starting off down the wrong hole
* Main chamber is <bleep> impressive and worth going to see
* Only 2 srt pitches involved
* The "big pitch" is only 30m (vertically but more rope needed) so if you can climb out of Eldon you have this one covered for sure.
*Everyone and their dog has been down bar pot at some point so lots of advice on route etc, ask anyone
Opinions will differ, but I think it's a fine intro to Dales that is a "big adventure" but actually easy SRT.
There is a notable caveat (warning) that the first pitch is a bit narrow in the top 2 metres. Nothing extreme and fine for normal proportion people, but if you or members of your party eat too many pies, it will bite you on the backside.
Beyond that, look at Ari's rope calculator already linked above
* Nice big car park, with loo
* Very pleasant walk up (especially if you pay the £2.50 and walk up the nature trail, although you can walk up a lane past a farm instead of you don't want to pay)
* A "watering hole" by the car park
* Easy navigation, follow a big path
* Good route description available in CNCC website with rigging guide
* Simple SRT, this is "chuck a rope down a hole" territory, no rebelays or rope ninja skills
* Videos and info on YouTube so you can research what the entrance looks like and no worries you're starting off down the wrong hole
* Main chamber is <bleep> impressive and worth going to see
* Only 2 srt pitches involved
* The "big pitch" is only 30m (vertically but more rope needed) so if you can climb out of Eldon you have this one covered for sure.
*Everyone and their dog has been down bar pot at some point so lots of advice on route etc, ask anyone
Opinions will differ, but I think it's a fine intro to Dales that is a "big adventure" but actually easy SRT.
There is a notable caveat (warning) that the first pitch is a bit narrow in the top 2 metres. Nothing extreme and fine for normal proportion people, but if you or members of your party eat too many pies, it will bite you on the backside.
Beyond that, look at Ari's rope calculator already linked above
CNCC
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Sadly yes... our website administrator spent a long time creating this but Microsoft have made quite a lot of changes to their mapping which has meant it no longer functions. He is currently looking into alternative options, although as he is also the Hidden Earth lecture secretary, website administrator and PR/Comms, he will be a little busy for the next month.
Rikaaay1, good luck identifying a suitable trip and hopefully the topos and descriptions on our website will still help
Cave Route Descriptions
A selection of free navigation route descriptions for caves around our northern England and Scotland.
cncc.org.uk
Free Cave Rigging Topos
Download free rigging topos for caves around the north of England and Scotland.
cncc.org.uk
alanw
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[Bar Pot]
Going down is nice and easy, with gravity on your side. Coming back up, the limestone is fluted. The flutes on the entrance side of the hole are narrower then those further away. Look up, and choose your route carefully. There is a knack to rigging and to getting through the constriction. A sling or loop of rope at the far side of the hole can be a lot of help on the way out. I find not going all the way up to the knot and then going horizontal with my head to the entrance side works for me. Send your slimmest person up first to help.
If your party contains too many pie eaters, Small Mammal is a good alternative to the top pitch, albeit with a bit of navigation and a bedding plane for added interest. There are threads here and here.
P.S. and another advantage is that Bar is safe in pretty well all weathers.
Going down is nice and easy, with gravity on your side. Coming back up, the limestone is fluted. The flutes on the entrance side of the hole are narrower then those further away. Look up, and choose your route carefully. There is a knack to rigging and to getting through the constriction. A sling or loop of rope at the far side of the hole can be a lot of help on the way out. I find not going all the way up to the knot and then going horizontal with my head to the entrance side works for me. Send your slimmest person up first to help.
If your party contains too many pie eaters, Small Mammal is a good alternative to the top pitch, albeit with a bit of navigation and a bedding plane for added interest. There are threads here and here.
P.S. and another advantage is that Bar is safe in pretty well all weathers.
Brains
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Dave Elliott's rigging guide has lots of good suggestions. Written pre resin bolt some routes have changed, but none the less an awesome collection of trips. Finding a copy would be an issue 
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