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Tourist Tax - Should clubs with properties be worried?

cavingbiker

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I have become aware that during the budget it was announced that mayors were being given the power to levy a tourist tax for paid overnight stays. At present it isn't clear whether or not organisations like caving/climbing clubs or scout groups will be affected or how much the levy will be. The documentation I have seen refers to "commercial accommodation", I have seen this to be interpreted as any organisation that charges for overnight stays.

At present there is a consultation going on until February 2026

The online consultation available at:

I also beleive that the Welsh Parliament is discussing something similar.
 
Hopefully the thresholds mentioned in 4.3.1 and 4.3.2 mean that caving clubs will be exempt. I also wonder if an argument could be made for those clubs that are mutuals, as at least for Member hut fees, money is coming into the organisation from inside the Mutual, therefore should not be classed as commercial.

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It is not looking good for my climbing club cottage in Scotland , but only for visitors. Members are not charged for the cottage so they cant tax that :)
 
How much are we talking here? They’ve been doing it in France for donkeys years. It’s like 50p or something like. If it goes towards local upkeep services facilities etc then I’d be happy to pay. People don’t think twice about spending £50 in fuel to drive there, a large portion going to government anyway, so just back off the gas pedal and you won’t notice any difference on the cost of your weekend. Just sayin.
 
I have become aware that during the budget it was announced that mayors were being given the power to levy a tourist tax for paid overnight stays. At present it isn't clear whether or not organisations like caving/climbing clubs or scout groups will be affected or how much the levy will be.....
I think they are doing this already in Wales, so how the scheme works there may indicate how it might work in England


and from https://www.gov.wales/visitor-levy-small-contribution-lasting-legacy

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It would be based on nights spent in the property, not on what the accommodation costs.
That's the case in Wales, but the rules for England haven't been decided. The government consultation document has various options for how much scope the Mayors will have to decide the rules for their area.
 
That's the case in Wales, but the rules for England haven't been decided. The government consultation document has various options for how much scope the Mayors will have to decide the rules for their area.
Of course. They might create a scheme with a huge loophole that allows avoidance of the tax just because you are a "member", but somehow I doubt it?
 
They might create a scheme with a huge loophole that allows avoidance of the tax just because you are a "member", but somehow I doubt it?
Agreed, that would be a loophole that commercial providers would exploit. Whether a club that provides free accommodation is within the scope is something we'll only know once the details are decided.
 
The cost, at present, does not seem much. Keeping the initial cost low to curb any objections? Watch how the tax is ratcheted up in years to come once the initial resistance has been overcome.
 
I've just shared the link to the paper, and the online consultation form on the BCA website and BCA facebook.
I came to share it here also, but found UKcaving are already on to it and discussing it :)

So instead I'll bump it up and remind everyone that the deadline for replying to the consultation is the 18th February!
 
Just a bump to remind people that the consultation finishes in a few days!

FYI, I have responded on behalf of the BPC with the following points:


In response to Question 4 (4.2.5)

No, we do not agree.

We suggest that voluntary organisations with no paid employees should be exempt from the levy as volunteers do not have the time to deal with the administration of collecting fees.

We think that low cost / low profit accommodation should also be exempt. Low profit organisations do not have the funds or manpower to deal with the administration of levies.

We also suggest that children, students and OAPs be exempt from paying levies.


In response to Question 5 (4.3.2)

Yes.

We think there should be thresholds so that accommodations with low profits are not liable for a levy. Low profit organisations do not have the funds or manpower to deal with the administration of levies.

We also think that there should be a threshold in relation to cost per night so that student groups who choose low cost accommodation are not disadvantaged.


In response to Question 7 (4.5.2)

Yes - we think that mayors should be able to add local exemptions in caving areas (e.g., The Yorkshire Dales, The Peak District, The Mendip Hills) for caving club accommodation.

Many cavers add a valuable contribution to the local community through voluntary work, whether this be in the form of conservation work or participation in local rescue teams.

Cavers also add to the local economy across the main caving areas in the country which often do not see much trade, especially in the winter months when other outdoor activity often declines yet caving often tends to peak. The recent Reconomics 3.0 report reconfirms that outdoor recreation is a particularly significant contributor to the economy in rural areas (such as caving areas). Outdoor recreation drives the visitor economy and local cafes, restaurants, shops and pubs all benefit from visiting cavers. Discouraging cavers from visiting these areas could significantly impact the local economy and the local communities.

Caving clubs who offer accommodation to their members and other guests from the caving community are run entirely by volunteers who do not have capacity to deal with the administrative burden of visitor levies. Caving hut fees are low cost and are designed to offer a service to the caving community and cover running costs rather than to gain a profit. Levies could be detrimental to caving clubs and the caving community.

Many of the same arguments could also be applied to other sporting clubs.


In response to Question 32/33 (8.5.4)

We suggest that voluntary organisations with no paid employees should be exempt from the levy as volunteers do not have the time to deal with the administration of collecting fees.

If a levy is to be paid we suggest that visitors pay directly to council, or that the council collects the fee.
 
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