West Kingsdale/ Jingling pot surveys?

[Rikaaay1]

Hi, I'm planning a trip to West Kingsdale on Monday, looking at going down jingling pot, and potentially aquamole, or something else in the area. I've found the relevant rigging topos and descriptions, but have drawn a blank looking for surveys of the cave system. I'm not sure if there is much of a system beyond the the area covered by the topos, but I did read that there is a connection between jingling and aquamole.
Does anyone know if there is a survey for the area somewhere?

 

[Loki]

CaveMaps.org

The West Kingsdale System - Starless River

starlessriver.com

 

[Loki]

Tony walthams pair of books cannot be recommended highly enough either. https://starlessriver.com/shop/caves-and-karst-of-the-yorkshire-dales-volume-2/

 

[georgenorth]

As far as I’m aware Jingling and Aquamole aren’t connected. There’s a survey of Aquamole here: http://cavemaps.org/surveys/cpc/full/CPC R85 Aquamole Pot.png

Only the start of One-armed Bandit passage is shown on the survey. From memory it’s 50-100m long. Further progress at the end needed digging, but was very difficult due to the conditions! We attempted a vocal test with the end of Jingling, but could only hear hammering, so didn’t put any more effort into it.

There’s another short extension in Aquamole, not on that survey, called Corncrake Aven. Presumably it’s heading up towards the surface, but I don’t have any details.

G.

 

[wellyjen]

My understanding. Aquamole Aven was discovered from the bottom by diving, going up in to the darkness. It is sort of below Jingling Pot and there was a dig at the bottom for many years aiming for the top of Aquamole Aven, without a breakthrough. The actual connection was made via what became Aquamole Pot.

 

[Samouse1]

As far as I’m aware Jingling and Aquamole aren’t connected. There’s a survey of Aquamole here: http://cavemaps.org/surveys/cpc/full/CPC R85 Aquamole Pot.png

Only the start of One-armed Bandit passage is shown on the survey. From memory it’s 50-100m long. Further progress at the end needed digging, but was very difficult due to the conditions! We attempted a vocal test with the end of Jingling, but could only hear hammering, so didn’t put any more effort into it.

There’s another short extension in Aquamole, not on that survey, called Corncrake Aven. Presumably it’s heading up towards the surface, but I don’t have any details.

G.

Which one is Corncrake out of interest? A mate and I reclaimed an aven to survey and see what was up there, but dubbed it Whackamole Aven due to a rock trying to get me as I waited for him to prussik

 

[georgenorth]

Which one is Corncrake out of interest? A mate and I reclaimed an aven to survey and see what was up there, but dubbed it Whackamole Aven due to a rock trying to get me as I waited for him to prussik

It’s something that James found near the start of One-armed Bandit passage, I think. Probably a hidden gem.

 

[Rikaaay1]

Tony walthams pair of books cannot be recommended highly enough either. https://starlessriver.com/shop/caves-and-karst-of-the-yorkshire-dales-volume-2/

Yeah I've got both books. I looked through after posting the message (I was out before and didn't have them with me) and found a good cross section.

 

[Rikaaay1]

CaveMaps.org

The West Kingsdale System - Starless River

starlessriver.com

Ooh the one on starless rider looks good, shame it's out of stock atm.

 

[Rikaaay1]

As far as I’m aware Jingling and Aquamole aren’t connected. There’s a survey of Aquamole here: http://cavemaps.org/surveys/cpc/full/CPC R85 Aquamole Pot.png

Only the start of One-armed Bandit passage is shown on the survey. From memory it’s 50-100m long. Further progress at the end needed digging, but was very difficult due to the conditions! We attempted a vocal test with the end of Jingling, but could only hear hammering, so didn’t put any more effort into it.

There’s another short extension in Aquamole, not on that survey, called Corncrake Aven. Presumably it’s heading up towards the surface, but I don’t have any details.

G.

Thanks, I looked all through cave maps site, but all I could find was tiny unreadable thumbnails, never saw this.
Yeah, I was going from a comment on this forum saying something along the lines of, they'd seen a note in aquamole saying this way to jingling pot. However, after more looking, I don't think there is any dry connection, it seems like it's just connected by a stream/ canal that runs under all the west kingsdale system.

 

[Rikaaay1]

Which one is Corncrake out of interest? A mate and I reclaimed an aven to survey and see what was up there, but dubbed it Whackamole Aven due to a rock trying to get me as I waited for him to prussik

This is a bit of the description from one arm bandit, out of the northern caves book, that mentions corncrake.

"Traversing back over 3m deep pit leads along a rift passage which is broken halfway by 2m climb down. At end of rift passage drops down into short canal and ahead is 10m long low airspace duck. Duck emerges at junction: Left quickly lowers to liquid mud choke. Right leads to 25m high Corncrake Aven, a series of short climbs that terminate at a narrow inlet rift."