Wezzit?

[Speleofish]

I must get hold of a copy of NC3...

 

[Fjell]

Based on a vague memory of it looking uninviting, I’ll go for Kail Pot.

 

[Pitlamp]

No - but you're not far off . . . . !

 

[Pitlamp]

Still no takers?

It's extremely close to one of the longer cave systems in the Dales and also to the longest in the country. That narrows it down to a couple of fields!

 

[Fjell]

Is anyone actively digging in that area? Looked very quiet when we walked there recently.

We did see the phone tower with genset and “sound wall”. It‘s crackers to have a diesel genset running 24/7 at the end of Kingsdale to service very few if any phones. What happened to saving the planet etc?

 

[Steve Clark]

Is anyone actively digging in that area? Looked very quiet when we walked there recently.

We did see the phone tower with genset and “sound wall”. It‘s crackers to have a diesel genset running 24/7 at the end of Kingsdale to service very few if any phones. What happened to saving the planet etc?

Agree. They have UPS batteries inside gear in the event the generator fails or needs servicing so it can't be a massive leap to use some solar panels instead. The mast will actually get quite a lot of use by folks on the waterfalls trail. Uploading to instagram, logging to strava, downloading unavoidable adverts etc. It's wrong from carbon perspective, but if it was commercially crackers it wouldn't be there at all.

You can get decent mobile reception (o2) up on the Turbary road around Rowten / Jingling now.

Anyway, guess at the Mohole (I've never been).

 

[RobinGriffiths]

Looking at the map, Sheepfold Pot is in the general area and appears to be on a bit of a fault. Although it does sound rather obscure.

 

[Babyhagrid]

You can get decent mobile reception (o2) up on the Turbary road around Rowten / Jingling now

A side track. But I got 4G whilst sat on the shaft top traverse line in jingling on the gully route.

 

[Pitlamp]

You were close Steve but RobinGriffiths has it.

It's not that obscure; Sheepfold Pot is in a fairly big shakehole. It's quite an important fault; this and the parallel Kail Pot fault guide a large part of Keld Head's Marble Steps Branch deep below. Although the displacement of the obvious bedding plane is not by much at surface, it may be that the main movement has been of the strike-slip type (so greater displacement than immediately apparent).

Where the passage in Keld Head goes along this fault (at depth) in a restricted section there is a vertical displacement of about half a metre. This makes you go along with one shoulder higher than the other, so your chest is at 45 degrees to the horizontal - a bit unusual.

Anyway, all yours Robin (and well done).

 

[RobinGriffiths]

Luckily I was up north over the weekend, so won't be subjecting you to a hole surrounded by a fence on a Welsh mountain this time.

Instead - a cave...

 

[Ian P]

Attermire ?

 

[andrewmcleod]

It's not that obscure; Sheepfold Pot is in a fairly big shakehole. It's quite an important fault; this and the parallel Kail Pot fault guide a large part of Keld Head's Marble Steps Branch deep below. Although the displacement of the obvious bedding plane is not by much at surface, it may be that the main movement has been of the strike-slip type (so greater displacement than immediately apparent).

I always feel your definition of 'obscure' might differ from many people's understanding of the term

 

[RobinGriffiths]

Not Attermire.

 

[andys]

Is it that short cave to the left of, and below, Victoria Cave?

 

[RobinGriffiths]

Fraid not. Here's an approach piccie.

 

[Pitlamp]

Do I take it that crag is roughly south facing?

 

[RobinGriffiths]

It is...

 

[Pitlamp]

Hm . . . I recognise that spot but blowed if I can think where it is.
Might ask you another question in a day or two if the answer hasn't emerged.

 

[ChrisJC]

Are we somewhere in the Northern Dales, like Swaledale or Wensleydale?

Chris.

 

[RobinGriffiths]

Chris is on the right track.