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Offline martinr

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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2017, 09:06:30 pm »
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We're all "plugged in" to the network. Given that I couldn't find a way to get a key, how do you think someone less familiar with the systems that generally get you access would fare?


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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2017, 09:40:51 pm »
I managed to sort out the key 50 years ago when I was a schoolboy and not caving with a club so nowadays amount with an ounce of initiative should be able to locate a key. Idiots who break into caves just cause problems for the rest of us.

Well, obviously other people are "idiots without an ounce on initiative" and can't get a key.  ::)

Slagging everyone off won't help anything. Still, not my area, not my problem, you lot go have fun with your locks getting cut etc.
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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2017, 09:45:14 pm »
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We're all "plugged in" to the network. Given that I couldn't find a way to get a key, how do you think someone less familiar with the systems that generally get you access would fare?

You do know that google personalises searches, yeah?
I don't get that result, hence saying I can't find a fucking way to get a fucking key. I can muster enough braincells to type in a basic search query  :icon_321: ::)

With your attitude of "works for me, your experience is irrelevant", I hope you enjoy getting your locks nuked.
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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2017, 09:54:18 pm »
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Slagging everyone off won't help anything. ....


Oh, the irony....

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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2017, 10:11:35 pm »


You do know that google personalises searches, yeah?


With your attitude of "works for me, your experience is irrelevant", I hope you enjoy getting your locks nuked.

A search on DuckDuckGo (albeit with "devon" added) returns pretty much the same result

My only point is that with a little bit of effort it is possible to find the info on the web. I wasn't being rude to you, please don't be rude to me


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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2017, 10:21:16 pm »
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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2017, 09:20:16 am »
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We're all "plugged in" to the network. Given that I couldn't find a way to get a key, how do you think someone less familiar with the systems that generally get you access would fare?

This to be fair doesn't tell you how to get a key, merely that one is required. (A search for just Baker's pit (with or without access gets you to  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakers_Pit doesn't have that link!) It also assumes you know the name of the hole that you've just stumbled across, which may or may not be so obvious (I don't know the area).
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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2017, 09:46:00 am »
Its rolling!!!!
Criminal damage is a police matter. Landowner or local caving council C&A rep can get the ball rolling easily.
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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2017, 09:51:28 am »
Access is simple you can ask...... DSS, PCG, BCG, DART ROCK, PENGELLEY, DCUC.... and many more places.... do people complain theu cant access GB or otters hole or reservoir hole..... No they ask for a key and a permit.... whys it such an issue all of a sudden?
Surely conservation should be at the front of all our minds especially a cave located in a town!!!!
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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2017, 12:49:18 pm »

......... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakers_Pit doesn't have that link!........

actually, the wiki page does have the link for access:


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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2017, 05:50:59 pm »


You do know that google personalises searches, yeah?


With your attitude of "works for me, your experience is irrelevant", I hope you enjoy getting your locks nuked.

A search on DuckDuckGo (albeit with "devon" added) returns pretty much the same result

My only point is that with a little bit of effort it is possible to find the info on the web. I wasn't being rude to you, please don't be rude to me

Your image implies I can't google worth shit. That's rude. If I had called you a spineless, thin-skinned toad, then yes, that may have also been a little rude, but thankfully I didn't, despite my almost overwhelming urge to do so when faced with the prospect of replying to someone of your nature.
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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2017, 06:25:50 pm »
I enjoyed several trips into Baker's Pit when I was a teenager in the 1970s. It was an excellent place to learn how to find one's way, and I still remember the buzz of getting up into the Plymouth extensions, which was said to be hard to find. It would be a great shame to lose access to this important system. Like Nig, I want to improve access to caves everywhere, and I agree with him that cutting off locks is stupid and irresponsible.

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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2017, 07:59:55 pm »


You do know that google personalises searches, yeah?


With your attitude of "works for me, your experience is irrelevant", I hope you enjoy getting your locks nuked.

A search on DuckDuckGo (albeit with "devon" added) returns pretty much the same result

My only point is that with a little bit of effort it is possible to find the info on the web. I wasn't being rude to you, please don't be rude to me

Your image implies I can't google worth shit. That's rude. If I had called you a spineless, thin-skinned toad, then yes, that may have also been a little rude, but thankfully I didn't, despite my almost overwhelming urge to do so when faced with the prospect of replying to someone of your nature.

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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2017, 08:49:40 am »
By the way, calling someone Nig is a microaggression and I am triggered. There is no place for racism, especially on a caving forum.

It's a shame people have to be nannied around places, or go out of their way to get a key, or track people down. What is wrong with a bolt, or a combination? It's not about control after all, is it? It's about children and their fluffy pets meeting a sticky end.


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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2017, 09:43:53 am »
Calling yourself Lockchopper instead of the more accurate term, Criminaldamage, seems aggressive.

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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2017, 09:50:28 am »
The last time I went down Baker's Pit, about 20 years ago.  I did not need a key.  Just a hammer and a six inch nail.  I tapped out the rod holding the hinge together and opened the lid.  Can this still be done today?

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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2017, 11:06:08 am »
By the way, calling someone Nig is a microaggression and I am triggered. There is no place for racism, especially on a caving forum.

I believe that Nig is a shortened form of his name and he has been known by that nickname since long before such PC terms as 'microaggression' were invented for needy millennials to get all offended about.

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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2017, 09:15:21 pm »
Your opinion doesn't matter. It is racist and I am offended.

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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2017, 09:28:49 pm »
Will the CROW act sort all this nonsense out ? Then the lock freaks will have to find another hobby . Uk caving needs a safe space , some of us are triggered by the sounds of locks and chains.

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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2017, 06:17:20 am »
Calling yourself Lockchopper instead of the more accurate term, Criminaldamage, seems aggressive.

Abusing your powers as a moderator is aggressive... oh... wait....  ;) :tease:
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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2017, 08:53:14 am »
Normal Service has now been resumed.
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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2017, 06:24:18 pm »
You find this funny, but it's merely an example of your white male privilege.

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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2017, 06:49:17 pm »
Newbie = Newbie Troll.

Apologies for stating the obvious but how do you know I am a white man when my avatar suggests that I have been dead for quite some time.
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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2017, 06:54:16 pm »
You find this funny, but it's merely an example of your white male privilege.
I'd like to find you funny but unfortunately you don't play the outraged liberal lefty handwringer bleating from his/her safe space about perceived injustice very well. You should have started a suitable social media campaign by now with a load of clever hashtags and carefully crafted memes of cats pulling strange faces.
Sorry,  you're just not very good at it.

Sorry Pegasus, I know I shouldn't have but I couldn't help myself.

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Re: Bakers Pit broken into again....
« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2017, 07:08:22 pm »
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