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Offline survival squire

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Please Help!
« on: November 23, 2018, 02:40:40 pm »
Good Afternoon All

I need to find a (or some) caves in the North (from the Peak District up) or Wales with some rather specific criteria. I have been looking on the internet for hours and hours and I am not getting anywhere so thought you guys may be able to help. The cave needs:

To be 2000ft or higher above sea level
Have areas that doesn't flood no matter the rain
Preferably igneous rock but this is not essential
More than 1 entrance/exit
Access to more than 1 Chamber/Room
Needs to be solid
Not Coastal

I know this is a rather specific list but any help would be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks

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Re: Please Help
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2018, 07:30:12 pm »
If you are excluding mines then you will struggle as you have already discovered. Natural caves are in limestone , a sedimentary rock. Lava tubes exist in igneous rock but are not known in the UK as far as I know. 2000ft. = 600m. and cave entrances at this altitude are not known as far as I'm aware in the UK.
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Re: Please Help
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2018, 06:17:16 pm »
Isn't the Black Cuillins (Isle of Skye) Igneous?

I might be wrong but I'm sure there's ridge caves on it around 800metres high...doubt they'll be solid.
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Re: Please Help
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2018, 09:02:32 pm »
Is this post a troll? Posting the same thing in all of the regional sections? Has the OP replied to anyone yet?
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Re: Please Help
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2018, 07:52:52 am »
Number of posts still listed as original 5 requests in new to caving, chat, peak, dales & Wales, so sensible choice of options for criteria...

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Re: Please Help
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2018, 03:19:14 pm »
I suspect the OP is looking for somewhere to call home when Brexit finally takes place and the resulting rising sea levels force the zombies to come swarming out of their graveyards.

Unfortunately all the possible places of refuge listed here are also known to cavers, who would undoubtedly get to them first in any such dire emergency...
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2018, 05:09:55 pm »
Hmm, hard one.

If you find one that meets criterion 1 but not criterion 7, I'd love to know...

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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2018, 06:33:36 pm »
Hmm, hard one.

If you find one that meets criterion 1 but not criterion 7, I'd love to know...
You could try Ireland (highest cliffs in Scotland are c.15OOft & England 1OOO): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slieve_League

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Re: Please Help
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2018, 01:32:23 pm »
To be 2000ft or higher above sea level  -  That's 610m above sea level. The highest point in the Peak District is Kinder Scout @ 636m. 
Have areas that doesn't flood no matter the rain - Unlikely to be a problem at 610m.....
Preferably igneous rock but this is not essential - This means rock formed by lava solidifying... Caves here are predominantly limestone, which is sedimentary
Starting to wonder if there are any?

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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2018, 02:40:59 pm »
Preferably igneous rock but this is not essential - This means rock formed by lava solidifying...

Not necessarily - solidified lava is an extruded  igneous rock, but not all igneous rocks are extruded. Non-extruded igneous rocks include granite, gabbro, diorite, gabbro, pegmatite, and peridotite.

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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2018, 08:27:49 pm »
I think most caves 2000 feet or higher above sea level will tick the "Not Coastal" box.

I can't think of anything that satisfies all of these criteria, but Knock Fell Caverns comes close.

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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2018, 08:30:03 pm »
I can't think of anything that satisfies all of these criteria, but Knock Fell Caverns comes close.

The problem with Knock Fell Caverns is that you're trapped if the zombies find it.  That second entrance is essential.

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Re: Please Help
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2018, 01:43:18 pm »
Mods: Can we combine these several topics (each in a different "region") into one super-topic to prevent repetition?
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Re: Please Help
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2018, 05:08:09 pm »
or just delete them all ???

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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2018, 06:47:43 pm »
or just delete them all ???

....yeah. With no sign of a response from the OP I'd have to agree.
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2018, 07:49:43 pm »
Still, it did make us think of how many high-altitude multi-entrance caves we knew.    :)
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Re: Please Help!
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2018, 08:54:51 pm »
Mods: Can we combine these several topics (each in a different "region") into one super-topic to prevent repetition?

Global Moderator Comment Done, and moved to 'Caving Chat'.
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Offline survival squire

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Re: Please Help!
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2018, 09:04:53 am »
Good Morning All

Thank you all for your very helpful responses. Sorry i have been away on holiday and didn't really hold my breath for 1 reply let alone the amount I have had. I will check out all the mentioned caves further.

Thanks again you knowledgeable lot :)
 

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Re: Please Help!
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2018, 12:31:11 pm »
So why the various criteria?
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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2018, 02:45:37 pm »
Yes we are very interested. The 2,000 ft high entrance one especially.
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Re: Please Help!
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2018, 03:10:18 pm »
The secret is in the name. He is a survivalist hence the height requirment and probably the igneous nature.

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Re: Please Help!
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2018, 12:33:31 am »
The secret is in the name. He is a survivalist hence the height requirment and probably the igneous nature.

Even the caves of Wasdale are only about 530m, although they are in igneous rock.

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« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2018, 08:34:36 am »
The secret is in the name. He is a survivalist hence the height requirment and probably the igneous nature.
Ah! Expecting very deep floods is he?
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