I thought that they were unnecessary and unsightly when I saw them on Wednesday, but I didn't say owt because I don't want to discourage anybody from installing a Stannah Stairlift in the Wretched Rabbit entrance rift.
The installer, when i mentioned this to him, felt that they provide convenience of an upward through trip without needing to pre-rig or rely on a fixed rope.
...why oh why do we need to fill caves with bolts p hangers fixed ladders and all the rest of this shit is totally beyond me...
Caves are the last remote places in England so should be kept in a natural state where possible.
...if you can't get down a cave without all this crap don't bother and find another sport...
Quote from: kroca on February 09, 2019, 10:13:04 pm...why oh why do we need to fill caves with bolts p hangers fixed ladders and all the rest of this shit is totally beyond me...Easy peasy. My turn...Safety.Accessibility.And to benefit people who aren't superhuman athletic free solo climbing deathwish-seeking egotists.
Quote from: langcliffe on February 09, 2019, 07:37:51 pmI thought that they were unnecessary and unsightly when I saw them on Wednesday, but I didn't say owt because I don't want to discourage anybody from installing a Stannah Stairlift in the Wretched Rabbit entrance rift.Interestingly, one of the directors of Stannah is actually a member of the Cheddar Caving Club, so it might be the 20 in Swildon's that is the first cave to be fitted with a chairlift, not Wretched Rabbit
I find this a total abomination, why oh why do we need to fill caves with bolts p hangers fixed ladders and all the rest of this shit is totally beyond me,if you can't get down a cave without all this crap don't bother and find another sport, i was looking at some of the rigging guides the other day what a joke,p hangers all over the place deviations everywhere .total madness ,rant over .
Before we get the usual outburst off Hypocrisy ,a few useful stepscompared with digs held up with tones of Scafolding .Consider.