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Offline SamT

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Re: Bear Grylls OBE
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2019, 11:26:00 pm »
I think my problem with him is that he's from a very very wealthy background, (you have to be, to summit everest these days).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Kq_piJsN4&feature=youtu.be

and he's used exceptionally 'sensationalised', contrived and down right fake versions of the great outdoor past times (climbing/caving/exploring/survival) to launch and then further his 'celebrity' career and status.

Over inflated prima dona if ever there was one.

A lot of his early stuff was just bollocks, and down right dangerous like the caving one:

 

where he suggests that the thing to do, when lost in the jungle and you've decided the only way out is via a underground streamway that has come to an end at a sump, is to take a big gulp of air and just free dive into the unknown #oneliveliveit #letsoffroad #nofear #gungho etc).  Hope that episode didn't 'inspire' any youths to follow suit (thinking of Dead Scout sump in Bagshawe)

This climbing one is pure bullshit



All this eating cow dung and raw badger testicles is pure bullshit too.  Bet Ray Mears would rustle you up a 2 michelin star meal given the same habitat and area to forage. 

https://twitter.com/jimllpaintit/status/472074821711699968

Ever wondered why BMC insurance skyrocketed - http://lifeinthevertical.co.uk/blogs/2009/07/bear-grylls-the-bmc-and-us/

So I'm sorry, I have very little respect for the bloke to be honest. I dont think he's got particularly large cajones and has just conned the world into thinking so.

The OBE will open some more doors to funding for his charade I guess, he must be well chuffed.


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Re: Bear Grylls OBE
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2019, 07:11:20 am »
If the caving world had their very own Bear Grylls, we could stop all this shit arguing.over access rights, youth policy's and young cavers in general.

We would have so many youngsters beating a path to caveing  that  any problems would be quickly solved.

So who on here is willing to be the caveing Bear Grylls?

Don't expect to much help or understanding of the compromises you have to make.

I beg to differ. My daughter is a caver and a scout in a caving area and from what she reports, her fellow scouts consider Bear Grylls to be a complete idiot and an embarrassment to scouting and caving.

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Re: Bear Grylls OBE
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2019, 10:52:17 am »
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would you want grilled bear at the event horizon
I suppose it depends on what sort of event horizon.  The one at the edge of a black hole maybe.  M87 is quite popular at present so maybe a chance for a bit of a media show there.  This would of course involve being blasted into space. No hotels there if it gets a bit tough though...
What concerns me is the recklessness of some of his activities for media sensationalism that appear to convey that it's the correct way to do things.  Drinking your own wee is a surefire way to increase dehydration, and as someone posted above, the caving stuff is rather concerning.
Still if was an OBE for brand development (not forgetting all that 'quality' Gerber stuff), raking in cash, and staying in hotels then maybe there's a case.

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Re: Bear Grylls OBE
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2019, 12:16:27 pm »
Quote from Sam 
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" Hope that episode didn't 'inspire' any youths to follow suit (thinking of Dead Scout sump in Bagshawe)"

Sorry to highlight this Sam.

But it seems a bit of a  statement to suggest the Bear Grylls Adventure TV series had anything to do with Mark Dowset's death in Bagshawe Cavern.This tragic occurance was in 1985 (I know as I was there during the attempted rescue)

Bear Grylls himself was only born in 1974 that makes him eleven at the time of the incident...

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Re: Bear Grylls OBE
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2019, 12:28:11 pm »
I know perfectly well when the incident was (I was 13 at the time and living in Castleton).

Perhaps I should have worded it "Hope that episode doesn't 'inspire' any youths to follow suit (thinking of Dead Scout sump in Bagshawe"
But then its quite an old episode, hence the past tense.

Its quite plausible that the some youth getting 'inspired' by Grylls goes out and copies him.  His coverage comes across as  'look at me, I'm an expert in this field and this is how you do it'.

Its arguable that Bear doesn't really inspire any youth to get our there and get stuck in outdoors, more likely they'd be thinking - "he's a nutter, that looks grim and horrible and you wouldn't catch me doing that" before retreating to their playstations.


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Re: Bear Grylls OBE
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2019, 01:58:31 pm »
Thank you Sam for clarifying that.....

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Re: Bear Grylls OBE
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2019, 03:46:17 pm »
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would you want grilled bear at the event horizon
I suppose it depends on what sort of event horizon.  The one at the edge of a black hole maybe.  M87 is quite popular at present so maybe a chance for a bit of a media show there.  This would of course involve being blasted into space. No hotels there if it gets a bit tough though...
What concerns me is the recklessness of some of his activities for media sensationalism that appear to convey that it's the correct way to do things.  Drinking your own wee is a surefire way to increase dehydration, and as someone posted above, the caving stuff is rather concerning.
Still if was an OBE for brand development (not forgetting all that 'quality' Gerber stuff), raking in cash, and staying in hotels then maybe there's a case.

event horizon/ Titan!!  :beer2:
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Re: Bear Grylls OBE
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2019, 04:55:45 pm »
I don't want anything to do with it!

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Re: Bear Grylls OBE
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2019, 04:16:56 pm »
Didn't some unfortunate fellow die in Scotland as a result of a BG inspired venture? Not underground but a survive out on the moors type of thing.

Whether its fair to blame him for that though I'm not sure  :-\

As a chap who prefers his adventure on the mild side it's a little irritating that he makes everything so darned unpleasant. It's possible to have a rather nice day on the hills or underground and experience nothing worse than some gentle exertion and possible slightly damp socks.

It's also not that difficult to remember to make some sandwiches and a flask of tea before you set out.

I suppose that does not make for such compelling viewing though.

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Re: Bear Grylls OBE
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2019, 05:30:54 pm »
such compelling irritating viewing though.

fixed that for you

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Re: Bear Grylls OBE
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2019, 05:42:09 pm »
I think they call TV like watching someone making a flask of tea and some sandwiches "slow TV".

Perhaps we could make one of people surveying a cave... Might be quite therapeutic?  :blink:
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