Tommy
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A discussion has been festering over the last few minutes on a club Facebook page where a newer member is looking to buy a cheap Pantin lookalike online.
Link:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Left-Foot-Ascender-Riser-Rock-Climbing-Mountaineering-Equipment-Black/32662527473.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.57.iVX7Yz&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0%2Csearchweb201602_4_10065_10130_10068_433_434_10136_10137_10138_10060_10062_10141_10056_10055_10054_10059_201_10531_10099_10530_10103_10102_10096_10052_10053_10050_10107_10142_10051_10106_10143_10526_10529_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_130_10078_10079_10073_10070_10122_10123_10124%2Csearchweb201603_1%2Cafswitch_1%2CppcSwitch_7_ppcChannel%2Csingle_sort_0_total_tranpro_desc&btsid=f1ea8400-ffa6-48b5-a95a-256bde7b908a&algo_expid=11f65f64-58ee-4482-9573-d0dff8fbbf82-6&algo_pvid=11f65f64-58ee-4482-9573-d0dff8fbbf82
The cost savings are significant, and provided the device possesses basic functionality, they have considered that the risk is low as the device is a non-critical component of their SRT system.
Personally, I am happy with this evaluation and would buy one if I felt the need for a foot jammer.
Included in the discussion has been the lack of support for UK caving equipment suppliers, and reputable manufacturers. The lack of proper certification has also been considered, but negated from a safety point of view by the 'non-critical component' evaluation as above.
The fact that Petzl state that the Pantin "is not PPE", and the technical datasheets do not detail any conformance to standards also supports this idea (presumably there are no requirements laid out in the standards governing other jammers, although I cannot currently access my BSOL subscription to check).
I thought I would extend the question to the wider UK caving audience, mostly for my own curiosity.
What factors have not been considered, and what is your personal take on this?
I'm sure this has been discussed on here before...
Link:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Left-Foot-Ascender-Riser-Rock-Climbing-Mountaineering-Equipment-Black/32662527473.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.57.iVX7Yz&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0%2Csearchweb201602_4_10065_10130_10068_433_434_10136_10137_10138_10060_10062_10141_10056_10055_10054_10059_201_10531_10099_10530_10103_10102_10096_10052_10053_10050_10107_10142_10051_10106_10143_10526_10529_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_130_10078_10079_10073_10070_10122_10123_10124%2Csearchweb201603_1%2Cafswitch_1%2CppcSwitch_7_ppcChannel%2Csingle_sort_0_total_tranpro_desc&btsid=f1ea8400-ffa6-48b5-a95a-256bde7b908a&algo_expid=11f65f64-58ee-4482-9573-d0dff8fbbf82-6&algo_pvid=11f65f64-58ee-4482-9573-d0dff8fbbf82
The cost savings are significant, and provided the device possesses basic functionality, they have considered that the risk is low as the device is a non-critical component of their SRT system.
Personally, I am happy with this evaluation and would buy one if I felt the need for a foot jammer.
Included in the discussion has been the lack of support for UK caving equipment suppliers, and reputable manufacturers. The lack of proper certification has also been considered, but negated from a safety point of view by the 'non-critical component' evaluation as above.
The fact that Petzl state that the Pantin "is not PPE", and the technical datasheets do not detail any conformance to standards also supports this idea (presumably there are no requirements laid out in the standards governing other jammers, although I cannot currently access my BSOL subscription to check).
I thought I would extend the question to the wider UK caving audience, mostly for my own curiosity.
What factors have not been considered, and what is your personal take on this?
I'm sure this has been discussed on here before...