Well, as an update to any new cavers out there who are reading every post on this forum, here is an update from me. Its almost three months since I posted this request for help, and I must say the response has been fantastic. I have been caving every week (sometimes twice) and have to thank various member of this forum for their help in getting me started. I have experienced a bit of everything so far, from digging in the Goyden system in Nidderdale, to some excellent SRT stuff in Marble Steps, Swinsto and Gill House Pot, some very wet stuff in Great Douk, an excellent trip with a short ladder pitch in County pot and up the Wretched Rabbit, and a short but very interesting trip into Dowkabottom last week with UWFRA outdoors club. So all in all, my caving apprenticeship is going very well indeed. I haven't missed a week yet at all and intend to keep it that way. So, to those of you thinking of getting started, take it from me, cavers are a nice bunch of people, and are keen and helpful to teach and explain. So all you have to do is just ask politely and be patient. A word to the wise though, dont run before you can walk. I am as keen as anybody, and wanted to do the biggest and the best first, but careful guidance from experienced people so far has taught me that I need to start at the bottom and work up (I know, bit backwards for caving!) I have been in places that have exhausted me, tested my strength and stamina, and tested my ability to keep calm. Fortunately, I managed these things, but it was all helped along by a slow build up to the bigger stuff. Anyway, enjoy learning to cave, I really am doing, and will continue to learn for a long time to come. Once again, thanks to all my new caving friends.