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Obscure references

graham

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In browsing the Cambrian Cave Registry for info about a certain Gower cave, I came across the following references:

Proc. Swansea Sci. and Field Nat. Soc. 2, 263-290. 1944.

Royal Institute of South Wales Rep. 14-15, 1919-20.

Does anyone have any idea where I might track these down? Even better does anyone have pdf copies that they can email to me?  :o I can find nothing of use about either publication on the World Wide Interweb.
 
Aye, looked at that. The website doesn't mention this particular publication & the museum itself is about 850 miles away at present.  :(
 
Swansea Uni Library has the following holdings for the first


: 1:1(1927)-1:10(1936), 2:1(1938)-2:10(1952), 3:1(1956)-3:2(1956) 

not surprisingly, it is "in store"

I could probably access this...if you are not in too much of a hurry
 
shortscotsman said:
Swansea Uni Library has the following holdings for the first


: 1:1(1927)-1:10(1936), 2:1(1938)-2:10(1952), 3:1(1956)-3:2(1956) 

not surprisingly, it is "in store"

I could probably access this...if you are not in too much of a hurry
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Thank you

I do have some time constraints, but "anytime" is definitely better than "never". If I get hold sooner by any other report I'll post here.
 
For the RISW Ann.Rep. try any or all of Swansea Museum (the city museum, not the National Waterfront Museum), the city library and Swansea University. SM will definately have a complete run as they occupy the former RISW building; the other two I'm less certain about. The Swansea University catalogue is accessible to anyone online - try googling voyager Swansea University or similar. The major copyright libraries may also hold it but they are depositors' libraries rather than users' libraries.
 
Hi,

alas, Swansea Uni does not have a complete run of the first reference, only a few issues, and the required one is missing.  I've asked the librarians to
try to locate a copy.  Their holdings of this stuff are in a bit of a mess.

For the RISW Ann.Rep, Swansea Uni does not list it.  There were some issues amongst the stuff they dug up for me but not the ones you wanted.
 
Hi,

If anyone wants a copy of

"A survey of Gower Caves with an account of Recent Excavations",  by Allen+Rutter

from proceedings Swansea Scientific and Field Naturalists Society, 1944 please pm me


-weren't people doing other stuff in 1944?!?
 
bograt said:
Welsh National Library is held at Aberystwyth Uni., is it worth trying there?
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Just for clarification: the National Library of Wales is not part of Aberystwyth University. As one of the handful of copyright libraries in the British Isles, the NLW is entitled to a copy of every book or periodical published in the UK. However, intensely local material has a higher chance of slipping through the net and is usually far easier to locate in institutions adjacent to where it was published. The online NLW catalogue is complete as far as published C20 material is concerned; it will be straightforward to check it.
 
robjones said:
bograt said:
Welsh National Library is held at Aberystwyth Uni., is it worth trying there?
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Just for clarification: the National Library of Wales is not part of Aberystwyth University. As one of the handful of copyright libraries in the British Isles, the NLW is entitled to a copy of every book or periodical published in the UK. However, intensely local material has a higher chance of slipping through the net and is usually far easier to locate in institutions adjacent to where it was published. The online NLW catalogue is complete as far as published C20 material is concerned; it will be straightforward to check it.
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SO, is it worth checking or not?, what on earth is C20 material?
 
bograt said:
SO, is it worth checking or not?, what on earth is C20 material?
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Wouldn't cost anything to check NLW's online catalogue. Also worth being aware of the copac online catalogue which amalgamates a number of copyright libraries' and universities' catalogues - again, it wouldn't cost anything to check. If by a great stroke of good fortune the NLW or copac catalogues locate a copy then trying to buy a photocopy by post would probably be cheaper than visiting most of the libraries in person when fuel prices are taken into account unless you are fortunate to live close to one of them.

'C20' = 'twentieth century', similarly 'C19' = 'nineteenth century', and so on. Handy abbreviation predating this new-fangled txt-speak stuff!
 
Thanks for that, anyone thought of asking the national caving library at Glutton bridge or the Eyam oracle?.
 
.....we (or rather a helpful librarian)  have got the first reference that graham wanted.  [It's the
"A survey of Gower Caves with an account of Recent Excavations",  by Allen+Rutter, 1944] 

Asking a librarian (when they are not too busy) for help works quite well - I didn't find the online catalogues
particularly helpful for something like this where the author/publisher/title are a bit vague.
 
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