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Grebe - what's happening Cap'n?

There is a lot happening in the area but not in Grebe


Old Farts Dig,
Charnel Shaft,
Roman Rake,
Timber Hole,
Cow Hole,
Upper Flood Swallet :thumbsup:
 
Willie Stanton dug along a narrow rift - cannot remember what he called it.There is a sort of causeway part way along. It ends at a point where it intercepts a choke which draughts well. On my sole visit I remember commenting on it to Martyn Grass and thinking that if permission were granted there obviously good prospecting for extension. It would need some brute chemical force but is a perfectly feasible dig and almost certainly, I would have thought, must be linked to the Upper Flood system. One good bit of news about such a dig is that it is in natural cave and well away from any of the archaeological bits.
 
The narrow rifts are called the Blasted Rifts, leading via respite at Breather Chamber, to Semicostatum Ruckle - an undefined rockmare; forays for an elusive draft have proven inconclusive with a greater possibility that the draft is caver-created convection current. The present depth is pretty nearly aligning with the bottom of Waterwheel Swallet, circa 55m below entrance. Flush Chamber mid way along Semicostatum Ruckle has had some initial desultory poking but no draft has been forthcoming. Chemical/engineering would be required but stacking space is majorly lacking. Dr. Stanton had a jolly good go at it and moved on. I think there's something to learn from his decision.
 
cap 'n chris said:
Dr. Stanton had a jolly good go at it and moved on. I think there's something to learn from his decision.

The Wessex had a jolly good go at UFS and moved on. I think there's something to learn from this decision.
 
The draught i felt was in no way a convection draught! Certainly portage of spoil would be energetic but I  have seen far worse potential dig sites.

Talking of Willie Stanton I have a theory about Reservoir Hole. I think the lower passages that flood apparently in wet weather led to upstream Goughs beyond the present diver's limit. The divers encountered a big choke and my suspicion is that in high water water backs up into lower Reservoir choking the lower phreatic tubes with mud.  A sustained dig there should get back into the Gough's streamway. I have heard it said that the diver's limit is upstream of Reservoir but I don't believe this.
 
You could always ask nicely to see the existing survey. I believe there's only one. Rumoured to be two.
 
Does the choke in Gough's end at the gorge, or does the known limit of Gough's pass beyond the gorge?
 
the end of Goughs is no where near Resevoir it ends at the car park by the corination street climb about 100 feet into the clife face. this was radio located by Bob Mackin and Nick Williams during the " lost river " diving back in the 80s.
 
A small error to my last post  :chair: the car park was where communications to Bishops Palace took place, the end is at the horse shoe bend 150 feet into the cliff face on right looking up gorge.
 
pete h said:
A small error to my last post  :chair: the car park was where communications to Bishops Palace took place, the end is at the horse shoe bend 150 feet into the cliff face on right looking up gorge.

How deep below road level?
 
pete h said:
A small error to my last post  :chair: the car park was where communications to Bishops Palace took place, the end is at the horse shoe bend 150 feet into the cliff face on right looking up gorge.

Wouldn't that put in relatively close proximity to Reservoir Hole?
 
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