Bear Grylls on tv
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cap n chris
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braveduck said:
ah147
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The lads at work have figured out this great method that if I'm riding them to work harder, they only have to mention his name and I'll rant for a good hour or two.
It completely ruins public perception of the sport and its participants, which is good for none of us.
It's not couch potato fodder either. Young lads and lasses across the country watch this crap and aspire to it. Two years ago I forcibly pulled two lads down from the summit of Mont Blanc in a storm in February. They weren't climbers. They'd watched bears programme a bit, and fancied a crack. No ropes, no harness, no crampons, no sleeping protection. Nowt. It took me nigh on 48 hours to get em down, and left me destroyed.
The fact they got up there in the first place, in winter, is a testament to their fitness and determination. But they weren't going to survive the night. Imagine what they could of achieved given a proper introduction? Last I heard, they'd lost 4 toes and 3 fingers between em.
He keeps pushing caving and it won't be long before similar shit starts happening to people with great potential, and it's people like the posters on this thread who have to pick up the pieces.
All this being said, I did my first few caving trips in T-shirt, jeans, no helmet and climbing gear...
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It completely ruins public perception of the sport and its participants, which is good for none of us.
It's not couch potato fodder either. Young lads and lasses across the country watch this crap and aspire to it. Two years ago I forcibly pulled two lads down from the summit of Mont Blanc in a storm in February. They weren't climbers. They'd watched bears programme a bit, and fancied a crack. No ropes, no harness, no crampons, no sleeping protection. Nowt. It took me nigh on 48 hours to get em down, and left me destroyed.
The fact they got up there in the first place, in winter, is a testament to their fitness and determination. But they weren't going to survive the night. Imagine what they could of achieved given a proper introduction? Last I heard, they'd lost 4 toes and 3 fingers between em.
He keeps pushing caving and it won't be long before similar shit starts happening to people with great potential, and it's people like the posters on this thread who have to pick up the pieces.
All this being said, I did my first few caving trips in T-shirt, jeans, no helmet and climbing gear...
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Some time ago I got a call from 'Bear's people' asking about the three counties system. Bear wanted to include caving in an upcoming programme. The conversation went something like this;
"Could Bear do the three counties system and speak to you and some of your chums on the way through".
"Well, it's never really been done and involves some extreme cave diving. How about going down Notts 2 to the connection point and doing a piece there like we did with the BBC's Richard Westcott. It's a great cave."
"How long will that take, because Bear is a very busy man and has a number of shoots to fit into just three days."
"Well at least a full day to get some worthwhile footage."
"That's too long, we'll have to film the caving piece in half a day. We've been talking to some other people about Long Churn Cave. Is that part of the three counties system? Perhaps we could meet your team down there to talk about it."
"Sorry it's not even remotely connected to the 3C's. Also it floods badly so you'll need a back up if you are committed to a single half day."
"We'll talk with these other people then, bye."
Dear oh dear. We went from 'Bear does the three counties system' to 'Bear does the cave they take the kiddies down'. The three counties in half a day! I ask you. :
"Could Bear do the three counties system and speak to you and some of your chums on the way through".
"Well, it's never really been done and involves some extreme cave diving. How about going down Notts 2 to the connection point and doing a piece there like we did with the BBC's Richard Westcott. It's a great cave."
"How long will that take, because Bear is a very busy man and has a number of shoots to fit into just three days."
"Well at least a full day to get some worthwhile footage."
"That's too long, we'll have to film the caving piece in half a day. We've been talking to some other people about Long Churn Cave. Is that part of the three counties system? Perhaps we could meet your team down there to talk about it."
"Sorry it's not even remotely connected to the 3C's. Also it floods badly so you'll need a back up if you are committed to a single half day."
"We'll talk with these other people then, bye."
Dear oh dear. We went from 'Bear does the three counties system' to 'Bear does the cave they take the kiddies down'. The three counties in half a day! I ask you. :
meanderthal
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Badlad said:
Not even a lack of local knowledge...
crickleymal
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I don't know if it is just my memory but, if there was a report on tv about a group getting stuck/trapped due to flooding you could make a bet that it would be the Scouts. Perhaps Bear is just carrying on the tradition
I've watched a few of his programs and in almost all of them he does something that would probably get you killed if it was a survival situation. He's held in contempt by a lot of bushcraft experts.
I've watched a few of his programs and in almost all of them he does something that would probably get you killed if it was a survival situation. He's held in contempt by a lot of bushcraft experts.
cap n chris
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droid said:
And there, in a single pithy short sentence, the whole situation is summed up perfectly. Spot on, that man.
I've finally got round to firing up the tele and using that ITV player thingy. I noticed at the start of the program a warning displayed suggesting he is a trained professional and should not be copied - surely the public will take heed of such a notice?
Having enjoyed an hour of delightful televisual viewing (interspersed with fine advertising that I wish we had more of) I can happily say that privileged little Edward performed exactly as expected!
I do find it most annoying this programme is being rubbished, it provided a useful safety tip; next time I'm underground and perhaps a little lost I'll remember to look out for scallops and use those to provide that vital clue to find my way out...
Before I forget; I've never bought an endorsed knife (do have a Swiss Army Knife but that's well made and very functional). I did buy a lock knife once (which I still own) from a shop somewhere in the Lakes when I was there with the Scouts (in the good old 80's). Ahh, how times change...
Having enjoyed an hour of delightful televisual viewing (interspersed with fine advertising that I wish we had more of) I can happily say that privileged little Edward performed exactly as expected!
I do find it most annoying this programme is being rubbished, it provided a useful safety tip; next time I'm underground and perhaps a little lost I'll remember to look out for scallops and use those to provide that vital clue to find my way out...
Before I forget; I've never bought an endorsed knife (do have a Swiss Army Knife but that's well made and very functional). I did buy a lock knife once (which I still own) from a shop somewhere in the Lakes when I was there with the Scouts (in the good old 80's). Ahh, how times change...
alanw
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CRO have sent a formal complaint to ITV
http://cro.org.uk/britains-biggest-adventures-with-bear-grylls-broadcast-on-tuesday-22nd-september-2015/
http://cro.org.uk/britains-biggest-adventures-with-bear-grylls-broadcast-on-tuesday-22nd-september-2015/
Oceanrower
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God help us all if she ever watches Sanctum!
mrdetail
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alanw said:
Made it on to news type places too:
http://www.grough.co.uk/magazine/2015/09/28/cave-rescue-team-complains-over-horrifying-bear-grylls-tv-programme
