Best non-SRT Caves for Intermediate Cavers

[ianball11]

It's not too bad, it's a flat out crawl not in water, so as long as you take it steady and don't panic, it's not that bad going DH to OI.  You can't turn your head that easily as you near OI but at the DH end it starts hands and knees.

 

[TheBitterEnd]

How tight is the crawl between the two? A couple of the members possess "comfortable" frames?

It's tight enough, I'm not huge (5?8, bit over a 40? chest) and it?s pretty snug. It doesn?t help that it is blasted so it is quite rough and the inexperienced might find it awkward, although it?s probably no tighter than the bedding at the bottom of the climb down in Dismal but that bedding is fairly smooth. That said it is a cracking trip and not too far to just go back the way you came (you could drop a ladder down the ?new? entrance as an easy escape before you go in).

 

[JasonC]

Indeed, a colleague of ours couldn't make it - he's by no means fat, but his rib cage just couldn't be persuaded through!
Having said that, I've seen fairly big blokes pass it fairly easily, I guess being young and flexible helps

 

[Antwan]

Ireby fell cavern is a good one for a series of small ish pitches so long as whoever is rigging doesnt go over kill and rig everything on the furthest bolts they can find, once had a (I thought) confident lad with a fair bit of srt expierience get in a right tizz as the Y hand was so far away from the foor hold in the rift you had to swing onto then from about 3 feet below and he got stuck at the knot for a while!

Cant remember exactly which pitch, except one of the lower two that someone behind me re-rigged expectin biblical floods!

Sorry for the spelling, littlee tipsy.

 

[Fulk]

Here's a list of all the caves mentioned in this thread (but bearing in mind the thread's title ? I can't see many people doing Bar Pot, for example, on ladders these days) with all the brief descriptions / caveats / comments removed:

Alum Pot via Dolly Tubs
Aygill Caverns
Bar Pot
Borrins Moor Cave
Bracken Bottom Pot
Bucket on the Head
Bull Pot of the Witches
Calf Holes
Cherry Tree Hole
Cliff Force Cave
County Round Trip
Crackpot Cave
Dismal Hill Cave to Old Ing Cave
Dow Cave
Dowkabottom Cave
Easegill/Link/Mistral
Gavel Pot (along with Short Drop Cave)
Gilgarth Cave
Goyden Pot
Great Douk Cave
Hagg Gill Pot
Haytime Hole
Heron Pot
Ibbeth Peril Cave
Illusion Pot
Ireby Fell Cavern
KMC/Valley Entrance
Long Kin East to the top of the big pitch
Magnetometer Pot to Caton Hall
Manchester/Goyden/New Goyden
Mistral Pot
Mongo Gill and Cherry Tree Hole
Nettle Pot
Notts II
Out Sleets Beck Pot
Providence Pot
Red Moss Pot
Sell Gill Holes
Short Drop and/or Gavel (excluding the big pitches at the end).
Short Gill Cave
Skirwith Cave
Sleets Gill Cave
Smeltmill Beck Cave (take in Stenkrith Park for the fun factor on a warm day)
Sunset Hole
Tatham Wife Hole
The Churns

 

[topcat]

That list is going to take a while to get through!