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C@rb!de

caverholic

New member
How should it be got rid of?

I thought once spent it was more or less harmless.


You can't beat the warm glow of a carbide, but they are a pain in the arse sometimes.
 

Brains

Well-known member
Hints for a happy life with carbide:
DO NOT get a helmet mounted stinky except for the mantlepiece.
DO NOT buy a Petzl generator, get a Malham or similar.
Do use a Petzl head set with electric back up.
Do have spare "O" rings for the generator and jet, and a spare jet (in a canister tapped to the gas pipe...).
Do hace a piece of wire for clearing soot and mud from the jet
Do carry a pig of spare carbide.
Do Jubilee clip the pipe to the headpiece and the the generator.
Do sleeve the generator pipe with a bigger pipe fixed to the genny to protect it.
Do carry a spare empty pig for spent carbide.
Until confident, check water level at each opportunity.
Do turn the water flow down all the time - only use the minimum dribble - it will fizz for a long time when damp...
Do not overfill the generator, half fill max!! Big lumps are bigger than small ones
Do replace the gauze filter with a nylon pan scourer.
Option - wrap the fills in a pices of stocking - easier to replace and handle, but I always found it far too much faff, and you cant sort out the good bits.
Always clean out the ash ASAP on return home - never leave it to set in the generator.
Before a crawl or wet bit give the genny a shake and a squirt of water.
For a "mission critical" move, put the electric on first until confident with your set up.
Be responsible and careful
Hang it over the fire and buy an LED set up....

The ash is mainly slaked lime with other bits of nastiness, keep it in a galv bucket until algae grows on it, then bin it
 

Brains

Well-known member
Well spotted!! My excuse is I am tired, and cant spell "better" very easily, or anything else come to that! :-[
 

Les W

Active member
I find carbide very theraputic whilst caving, although I don't smoke I reckon fettling a carbide lamp is the caving equivalent of what pipe smokers do whilst cleaning out a pipe etc. ;)
 

cap n chris

Well-known member
I find being able to see what I'm doing and not having to mess about fiddling with antiques while underground quite therapeutic too. It's called "caving".  ;)
 
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andymorgan

Guest
Or for a decent light, bin your LEDs and use a halogen! :tease:
 

Peter Burgess

New member
Hints for happy life:

Don't let other peoples' forthright opinions cloud your judgement on what you would prefer to do as far as illumination goes. If you want to use candles, then go for it. Just keep the caves clean and your equipment safe.

Over the years, domestic facilities have improved, with the invention of gas and electric cookers. Yet many people prefer 'faffing about' with Aga's and Rayburns, because they like them. I don't here a clamour from modernists telling them to dump them and 'get modern'. I say live and let live.
 

paul

Moderator
Peter Burgess said:
Hints for happy life:

Don't let other peoples' forthright opinions cloud your judgement on what you would prefer to do as far as illumination goes. If you want to use candles, then go for it. Just keep the caves clean and your equipment safe.

Over the years, domestic facilities have improved, with the invention of gas and electric cookers. Yet many people prefer 'faffing about' with Aga's and Rayburns, because they like them. I don't here a clamour from modernists telling them to dump them and 'get modern'. I say live and let live.

Well put!
 

graham

New member
Peter Burgess said:
Hints for happy life:

Don't let other peoples' forthright opinions cloud your judgement on what you would prefer to do as far as illumination goes. If you want to use candles, then go for it. Just keep the caves clean and your equipment safe.

Over the years, domestic facilities have improved, with the invention of gas and electric cookers. Yet many people prefer 'faffing about' with Aga's and Rayburns, because they like them. I don't hear a clamour from modernists telling them to dump them and 'get modern'. I say live and let live.

I do hear that, mate of mine has an AGA and it costs a bloody fortune to run.
 

Hughie

Active member
graham said:
Peter Burgess said:
Hints for happy life:

Don't let other peoples' forthright opinions cloud your judgement on what you would prefer to do as far as illumination goes. If you want to use candles, then go for it. Just keep the caves clean and your equipment safe.

Over the years, domestic facilities have improved, with the invention of gas and electric cookers. Yet many people prefer 'faffing about' with Aga's and Rayburns, because they like them. I don't hear a clamour from modernists telling them to dump them and 'get modern'. I say live and let live.

I do hear that, mate of mine has an AGA and it costs a bloody fortune to run.

My farmhouse (rented) has an oilfired Rayburn. It does heatng, hot water and cooking. It's hideously expensive to run.
Sorry - off topic.
 

Peter Burgess

New member
I could bring it back on topic by suggesting that you convert your house to run on carbide. Some large houses used to be lit from acetylene produced in huge carbide generators, probably as they were not close to a supply of town gas. Probably even more hideously expensive than your Rayburn.
 

Hughie

Active member
Peter Burgess said:
I could bring it back on topic by suggesting that you convert your house to run on carbide. Some large houses used to be lit from acetylene produced in huge carbide generators, probably as they were not close to a supply of town gas. Probably even more hideously expensive than your Rayburn.

I could, theoretically, put all the shite and effluvia(?) from my 250 cows into a sodding great bio-digester and power most of the parish using the methane produced. But one of those is fecking expensive.

I had considered carbide.  ;)
 

paul

Moderator
cap 'n chris said:
Peter Burgess said:
...by suggesting that you convert your house to run on carbide...

FFS, Peter!  o_O

Aha! What about a solar-powered caving lamp?

That comes after the dehydrated water has been perfected along with project to publish a survey of all unknown Peak Disrtict cave passages...  :)

 

Hatstand

New member
EEEEEEEEEEEEP

I am guessing I put too much water in.... my fizzy rock dissapeared!!!

(isn't this a good way of getting rid of carbide??? ;-))
 
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