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caveMonkey

New member
Trips: Large pot and Low Douk

A friend and I removed a rucksack full of rotting timber (and one scaffold pole that was really weak and malleable) from Thronton Hall and the foot of the entrance shaft of Large Pot. Another bag full of rubbish was removed from the Daylight Series in Low Douk, our second trip. These were mainly plastics and galvanised wire as the other rotting iron work collapsed on being touched. The chamber still has a lot of plastics and rotting wood and metals scattered around; camouflaged with the rest of the surroundings. You almost won't notice if you are not alert to them ;) ! We hauled out as much as possible with the space we had left in our bags.

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Here's a photo of your spoils - well done!  Regards, Pegasus  :)
 

Badlad

Administrator
Staff member
Well done caveMonkey and friend.  A 50l waterproof Exped work and rescue rucksack valued at ?80 is yours. Very useful sack for carrying your caving kit to the entrance or for bringing back even more rubbish.  PM to arrange delivery.

As well as these two caves I expect this isn't the first time you have pulled out crap from a cave  ;).  Keep up the good work.

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numb7rs

New member
A handful of us from York Uni were down Rowten today, and noticed how much crap was down there. We collected a heap of feed bags, old tins, batteries, and a roll of what looks like red linoleum, from various places in the cave. It was quite amusing watching people prussik out the entrance with a heap of linoleum dangling from them!

Here's a picture of us looking unimpressed.

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Badlad

Administrator
Staff member
Wow, well done you all  (y).

It's amazing how much crap is down these caves when you start to look for it.  Could you make use of a Petzl Classic tackle bag worth ?70 - it's yours.  I hope this will encourage you to do more.  PM me to arrange collection.

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numb7rs

New member
Fantastic! We absolutely could. The state of our club tackle sacks is a constant source of embarrassment.

Thanks very much!
 

D.Snaith

Member
This specific mine in Devon took me three months to clear the shaft out. this was done as a project not only to gain access to the mine but also to preserve it for further generations. since then we have dug, bolted and built a scaffolding platform to gain further access to the deeper workings and it all paid off when we discovered loads of new passage never seen before.  I don't have any before or after photos, but i have a few of during, the first pic is on day 3 of clearing and the third is day 7.
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Getting mucky in the woods
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Time to clear the rubbish in Tom Bells Cave.​
Tom Bells cave is a bit of a unusual cave,
It is a natural grit stone cave that is in Hard Castle crags woods ,West Yorkshire
Not many cavers visit the cave but over the years the cave entrance has had many locals and kids from the local scout camp shelter in the entrance tunnel.
The cave is well worth the woodland hunt to find it. it has lots of features and is a good squeesy grittty adventure.

I had the afternoon off work and on a sunny day the best thing to do was to go underground.( i wouldn't want to get a tan!)
Armed with a big ikea bag and kit bag i worked through the undergrowth to the cave.
I worked from the inside out picking up many cans, bits of plastic, a postal sack , fertaliser sacks, some very old caving rope and to my surprise a road side warning beacon.

Its only when you slow down in a cave you notice how much there is. I couldent go a meter without finding something to put in the sack.

The spiders are now going to have a much cleaner cave to live in.

Once out the cave the sack was full. now the problem and real hard work. - doing this by myself meant had get the rubbish back to the car, up hill, in the sun, this was one very sweaty walk.

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Cheers for reading and hope you make the trip to tom bells one day.

Sorry images are so big.
 

Badlad

Administrator
Staff member
Good post UndergroudHP.  I agree with your observation that it is only when you slow down and look around that you realise how much rubbish there it.  You've shown the right spirit too.  Take your pick - waterproof socks or a multi functional neck fleece.

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PS - you didn't come across the missing human skull did you?
 
I will take the socks please.
The human skull is a legend. I did find a hair comb in the very bottom of the cave though. A good 40 min from the surface!!

Thank you very much!!
 

Rob

Well-known member
Nettle Pot - To Hell And Back - Tuesday 1st Sept 2015

8 Years ago Pete O?Neil set me a job to resurvey to the bottom of Nettle, due to him having doubts about the quality of the existing survey. I mostly ignored him. The Eldon PC?s recent explorations in Crusader (Oxlow) last year were sufficient to increase my interest in the surrounding area including Nettle, and what better way to learn a place than to survey it, even if it is basically a draughtless and overly tight hole to nowhere.

On a single trip with MarkR and SimonG in Jan 2015, we got most of the way, but DistoX battery issues turned us around. It took until September for me to return, this time with LukeC. As always, I had great plans. Finish the survey in Hell, push a lead I remembered from years back, then survey Red River and maybe even Dratsab (and of course make it out in time for the pub). As always, I under-delivered?

The trip started efficiently and pleasantly, the survey to the bottom got completed in no-time, and the mood was generally high, assisted by the musical accompaniment of the Foos playing on my surveying phone.

I quickly smashed that satisfaction aside when I suggested we give the place a bit of a tidy. It was a state down there, but I still don?t know what came over me. I think it was because the plan was seeming to go so well that I figured it can?t be that hard to remove the few bits lying about in this remote and neglected dig site. I even wondered whether such small amounts would be worthy of note compared to so many of the other sterling efforts in this thread, and wondered how much exaggeration would be needed!?!

It started off slowly. A few bits of stemming wood, the occasional chisel, a few bottles of half full washing up liquid (why, just why?), ooo a hammer, a bigger chisel, a battered old electron ladder, some scaf clips, and even bigger chisel. Ahead Luke had picked up a steel scaf tube and a 1.5m long, really heavy, air drill bit. For some reason things just seemed to slow down.





Once back at the base of the bottom pitch in Hell (Eyes Down?), Luke hauled the seriously heavy tacklebag whilst I freeclimbed alongside to steer it up through the tight and awkward rifts, although that action was primarily as I didn?t want to be below the horrendously dangerous load. As I climbed up passed the lead I was hoping to push I realised this trip was now going to be one compromise after another.

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We were right when we anticipated the most difficult bit would be at the top of the next pitch (Bingo Pot?), where a tight pitch head leads straight into an even tighter meander. Both memorable obstacles on a normal day. Needless to say, we were both shattered after that section, leading us to reflect how hard it would be removing a casualty from this place! My suggestion to survey Red River was quickly yet politely declined by Luke, and after a quick explore we continued the crawls back to the main pitches.



I wouldn?t say that satisfaction was setting in yet, but the actual process of collecting rubbish seemed to be infectious. We both just kept filling our pockets and oversuits, clipping bits onto belts, and generally trying to make the place cleaner. I was even strangely happy when I realised one of the washing up liquid bottles was leaking.

Once at the bottom of Beza caution defeated valour as we left the drill bit to one side. There was just too high a chance it was going to drop through the base of the quickly disintegrating tackle bag, and as it was Luke?s turn to derig, he was going to be constantly in the firing line below me!



Getting to the surface at midnight after what felt like a lot longer than a 5 hour trip, we agreed that was both a stupid and unusually pleasing thing to do. Certainly a nice change, and if nothing else, I?ve got a scaf bar to take down a different dig?





UKC, Nettle thanks you for encouraging us to clean up her lower bits!
 

Leclused

Active member
Thumbs up  (y)

And you now have 3 extra chissels too :)

Ps I'm using this thread as a fine example of how clean-up actions can be encouraged. Keep up the good work!!
 

Mark R

Well-known member
Great job Rob and Luke- I can well imagine how horrible it was getting stuff out from the bottom of there!
What's more use to you- a 50m Beal Antipode rope or a Petzl classique tackle bag, a Berger Book or a ?30 hitch and hike voucher?
Take your pick :)
 

cap n chris

Well-known member
Despite having a horrid time here on Lanzarote at the moment where the miserable weather is spoiling our fun, I chivvied Aubrey into coming along this morning to tidy up a cave on the island that I "discovered" last time out here but was dismayed to see it was quite littered. So we went along to the hardware store this morning to get some gloves and bin bags and then drove up to Las Nieves and then along the clifftop path to the Cueva Risco de Famara and spent a happy time collecting rubbish - mostly empty water bottles, tissue paper (lots and lots and lots of tissue paper), bottles, cigarette packets, tea lights, joss sticks and othersuch party detritus. Managed to fill three bin bags and removed it - now time for an alfresco lunch in appalling sunshine and blue skies, 31 degrees. Shall try and find another cave to rummage around in to keep out of the hostile conditions....

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Badlad

Administrator
Staff member
Great stuff Cap'n - that's the spirit.  Enjoy the alfresco lunch and glorious sunshine.  Jealous  ;)
 

Badlad

Administrator
Staff member
This is a picture of rubbish from the 1993 clean up in Ease Gill.  It was the first by the Red Rose Cave & Pothole Club and there has been one every year since and still finding stuff, says Ray Duffy.  The next one is on the weekend of 3/4th October.

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Ukcaving has offered a bundle of rewards valued at over ?200 to support this.  The club may use these as they wish, hopefully to encourage more participation.  The only condition is that they report the effort on here including a few photographs - good luck.
 

Rob

Well-known member
Awesome, we'll take a tackle bag please. It'll help with the next cleanup up!
 
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