Cwmystwyth warning -Kings and Queens

[royfellows]

It is reported to me by someone who went to the mid level at Kings & Queens to do the abseil down to Queens.
On the 1st pitch it would appear that there has been a significant change to the bolts.

1. It looks like the rock around the deviation bolt must have failed as there is only a remnant hole left and no deviation
2. The back up 3rd bolt can be rotated in its hole. The nut seems to be cross threaded on the bolt and I wonder if this has allowed for sufficient leverage to be applied to overcome the rotational resistance.

The 2 primary belay bolts look fine and there were nuts tight on the hangers.

My advice is to give this area a miss, pleanty alternatives there.

 

[DJFRASER]

We were here Sunday looking at the abseil and can confirm the 3rd backup bolt is very loose. Is this a rebelay when through the hole then?

 

[royfellows]

We were here Sunday looking at the abseil and can confirm the 3rd backup bolt is very loose. Is this a rebelay when through the hole then?

I personally suspect the quality of the rock there and feel that digging Queens is the right way to go. I would leave the abseil route alone. Queens was open a few years back, but again, rock quality and falls sit together.

 

[DJFRASER]

We didn't do the abseil don't worry. Was moreover a wander round looking at adits and we finished in level fawr

 

[tomferry]

Can’t beat a good old scratch around