Eldon Quarry Access

[bograt]

And are you offering to help with the digging Graham? :-\

 

[graham]

Am I missing something here? Anyone wishing to dig needs to gain consent from the relevant landowner or manager; the site being in a SSSI then that person will be aware of need to gain consent from NE and will either request it or request that the diggers get it themselves. Where on earth is the room for confusion?

Yes, you were missing something. Are you confused now?

No, it is clear that DCA have gained relevant consent from both landowner and NE. Well done them.

And are you offering to help with the digging Graham? :-\

I suspect that my travelling times to the site would rather inhibit that. Sorry.

 

[mulucaver]

I'd like to suggest that any agreements made for cave access are published in full on the DCA website so that cavers can see exactly what their obligations are.

 

[martinm]

I'd like to suggest that any agreements made for cave access are published in full on the DCA website so that cavers can see exactly what their obligations are.

In the case of Eldon Quarry, this has now been done, see home page. (I can only publish what I am sent.)

Regards, Mel. DCA Webmaster & Conservation Officer.

 

[EwanCameron]

Can anyone that has visited Sidetrack in the last 2 weeks and has found the box with the log in please PM me ASAP.

Yours
Ewan Cameron
DCA Access Officer

 

[Pete K]

The box is still there as of 2pm today (3/3/14).
I'd not been up since the new box was installed and made the mistake of walking right up the lane until I could see into the quarry, a mistake I imagine was duplicated by those who did not find it. Once I back-tracked it was easy to find. Box, key and logbook still in place.
Ewan has details of exact location and arrangements and now also has some photos if people really struggle. I won't post the exact location here so I suggest contacting the DCA for details if you are in any doubt.

Pete
DCA Projects Officer

 

[EwanCameron]

If anyone is visiting Sidetrack PM me if you need photos to help you locate the box & log book. It's important that people use the log book as part of the access agreement so please make every effort to locate it.

Yours
Ewan
DCA Access

P.s thanks Pete for your visit today

 

[skippy]

Never mind finding the box..it took me ages to work out how to get into it

 

[EwanCameron]

Lol

 

[Big Jim]

The signing in book is still unusably soggy. Looks like its been put back into its bag whilst damp and just stayed that way. Pete Mellors is aware and is hoping to take a new book up there in next few weeks.

J

 

[martinm]

The signing in book is still unusably soggy. Looks like its been put back into its bag whilst damp and just stayed that way. Pete Mellors is aware and is hoping to take a new book up there in next few weeks.

J

Why not replace it with a water resistant surveying book? Then it wouldn't get soggy! There was someone on here a while ago selling various sizes of these books....

Regards Mel. DCA Conservation Officer.

 

[dunc]

It's important that people use the log book as part of the access agreement so please make every effort to locate it.

Just out of interest (never been so obviously never looked into access at this particular site), why is it so important that people use a log book, what is achieved by this task?

 

[graham]

It's important that people use the log book as part of the access agreement so please make every effort to locate it.

Just out of interest (never been so obviously never looked into access at this particular site), why is it so important that people use a log book, what is achieved by this task?

I have also wondered that. Surely the traffic that you need to know about is the traffic that will not record itself voluntarily.

 

[EwanCameron]

It's down to the land owner having issues in the past

Use the log book and keep him happy

 

[Big Jim]

The DCA have worked hard with the land tenant, the owners (Chatsworth) and Natural England to regain access to the quarry. This is one of the conditions agreed to secure the continued access by cavers to the quarry. Its no great ball ache so why question it if it keeps all parties happy. Simple!

J

 

[graham]

No biggy. If it keeps the landowner happy then fine.

 

[dunc]

Its no great ball ache so why question it if it keeps all parties happy. Simple!

Like I said, I've never been and have no knowledge of the access situation. So without spending time searching for an answer I thought I'd ask here, as it seemed like a quick, simple and perfectly reasonable question to ask. I still don't understand what it acheives, but it's what the landowner wants so be it.

 

[martinm]

Its no great ball ache so why question it if it keeps all parties happy. Simple!

Like I said, I've never been and have no knowledge of the access situation. So without spending time searching for an answer I thought I'd ask here, as it seemed like a quick, simple and perfectly reasonable question to ask. I still don't understand what it acheives, but it's what the landowner wants so be it.

It achieves the  land tenant and landowner knowledge of who was on their land for valid reasons under an access agreement. Previously he had problems with unauthorised people using the quarry for unauthorised purposes and closed all access. An example of this is the people, (albeit after the quarry was re-opened), who tried to nick the rope that was rigged down to Sidetrack Cave by cavers legitimately using the quarry. I'm sure the would-be  thieves didn't fill in the log book!

 

[EwanCameron]

URGENT UPDATE - someone has been and stolen the box & logbook can people give the area a miss until we can get something sorted ASAP

MASIVE thanks for yours support in this matter

Yours
Ewan Cameron
DCA Access


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[Jenny P]

There is now an update on this on the other thread re. Eldon Quarry.

I'll not bother to re-post it here.

Jenny Potts,
DCA Hon. Secretary