royfellows
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Whenever I see people rushing underground, I always think that they are in a hurry to get to the hospital.
May not be their intended destination, but......
May not be their intended destination, but......
Fast and Light Caving - Zooooom!
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Alex
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It all depends on whether you are rushing or just caving to your ability, some people can move rather quickly and have good enough coordination and stamina to move quickly though a cave and be in no more danger if they are used to moving at that speed, what you see as rushing might just be a fast pace to someone else but still well within there own safety limits. Obviously there are exceptions, such as when there are looks rocks, delicate formations, or SRT which should not be rushed in my opinion (I am referring to technical parts like getting on/off the rope, re-belays etc, I am not referring to prussicing as it's not dangerous to do that at high speed just tiring).
royfellows
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I am mainly 'doing' mines and get annoyed when its wading through water with submerged rocks, well stirred up mud by those in front who seem to trying to make an appointment somewhere.
cooleycr
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I think the phrase that best suits Royfellows musings is ?Act in Haste, Repent at Leisure"!
As someone who is not good with exposed heights, I always take my time with pitches and traverses and (I have noticed with age!) also am very cautious with crawling under stacked "deads".
These days I mainly do cave/mine exploration/digging and less and less "sporting" trips, I prefer to take my time whilst moving through a cave/mine as it is a well known fact that plenty of new passages etc. have been found by people who have simply paused to look around, rather than race off to the first pitch.
That said, I am a trail/hill runner, mountain-biker and horse rider and do get a buzz out of going fast..
As someone who is not good with exposed heights, I always take my time with pitches and traverses and (I have noticed with age!) also am very cautious with crawling under stacked "deads".
These days I mainly do cave/mine exploration/digging and less and less "sporting" trips, I prefer to take my time whilst moving through a cave/mine as it is a well known fact that plenty of new passages etc. have been found by people who have simply paused to look around, rather than race off to the first pitch.
That said, I am a trail/hill runner, mountain-biker and horse rider and do get a buzz out of going fast..
royfellows
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cooleycr said:
I love this
Alex
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On expo and looking for new passages, a slower pace will net you more passage, I found passage in a cave that had been explored for 30 years everyone going past this inlet and not giving it a look as it was on the way to the main cave. One day while enjoying a snack opposite I decided to explore and found some very nice well decorated passage. It did not go (well could do but would mean destroying some fantastic orange crystal formations) but still was a nice find. It all depends on the situation for me.
ah147
New member
Sometimes caving fast is a necessity.
I have been involved a few times in a diving/aven climbing project at the end of a very long cave in the UK with access restrictions.
The access restrictions state hours you can be inside the cave, and hours you have to be out for. Though these aren't strictly enforced as a regular visitor it's better to be on the owners good side.
A trip to the end and back normally takes roundabout the full amount of time.
Add 2-3 hours diving/climbing at the end. Add a few cylinders/drill/ropes to your gear.
It feels like you have to put a lot of effort in to make it work, running in big passages, suffering in crawls etc.
You obviously can't just go do one of these trips and cave slowly the rest of the time either...
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I have been involved a few times in a diving/aven climbing project at the end of a very long cave in the UK with access restrictions.
The access restrictions state hours you can be inside the cave, and hours you have to be out for. Though these aren't strictly enforced as a regular visitor it's better to be on the owners good side.
A trip to the end and back normally takes roundabout the full amount of time.
Add 2-3 hours diving/climbing at the end. Add a few cylinders/drill/ropes to your gear.
It feels like you have to put a lot of effort in to make it work, running in big passages, suffering in crawls etc.
You obviously can't just go do one of these trips and cave slowly the rest of the time either...
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The Old Ruminator
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Does anyone remember the Willerup blog. Covered the digging trips off Priory Road, Aggy. They used to speed trip Southern Stream in ridiculous times but it gave them more time to dig. I think one or two of the group were fell runners so were fantastically fit. All of a sudden things stopped but I think some of the group still cave.
cap n chris
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The Old Ruminator said:
Yes. It was inspirational. I think the website morphed a bit:
http://willerup.com/caving/log.html
http://willerup.com/caving/
http://adventurehut.com/#/activity
