If CRoW applies to caving - some comments

[jasonbirder]

Best try to keep them out then...

 

[Simon Wilson]

It only takes a tiny minority of people to derail a discussion. In the real world they are called hecklers and ought to be thrown out onto the street.

I don't think it was derailed. You can see how the discussion went in that direction. You will always have extremes and two extreme views were expressed; one from a person who sees no good in caving politicians and one who sees no wrong. Both make points worth considering. Mel seems to have a good heart and Exsumper nearly always injects some humour.

Look at the time of Mel's posting. I hope she gets an early night tonight.

 

[droid]

Agreed.

Exsumper was clearly stating a strongly held and honest view.

It should be possible for people to disagree, even quite vehemently, without becoming mortal enemies. Perhaps one or two of the more 'enthusiastic' critics on here should appreciate that.

It is also possible to agree with someone on one point but disagree on others. Too many discussions here seem to develop into 'trench warfare'.

 

[exsumper]

  CBA anymore, peeps who just criticise peeps for the sake of it...  I'm embarrassed at your 'lies and deceit'. I think this thread should now be locked as yet again it has gone down to personal accusations by this little boy who calls himself exsumper. Grow up why don't you... (Not reading this thread again, so don't bother replying. And don't PM me, as it'll just get deleted.)

Please don't go mummy, I'm scared of the dark!

At 48, I think its too late to grow up now.  Don't think I'm the one who needs to mature either.

If you think these views are rude and abusive, you should hear me and my best mates arguing in the pub !

As I said look at the replies, actions and antics of our so called reps,  in the CNCC, Crow, Anchors etc

If you think that's an acceptable way for your politicians to run a national body, I'm the one who should be sad!

The truth hurts don't it!

 

[graham]

Any news yet on how DEFRA haven't actually changed their position re CRoW? i.e. that it doesn't apply to caves & caving?  :-\

 

[Andrew W]

Are you in possession of new information regarding the internal machinations of DEFRA, Graham, or are you simply being provocative?

 

[graham]

I was just thinking that something might be known from last weeks meeting by now <shrugs>

 

[bograt]

Are you in possession of new information regarding the internal machinations of DEFRA, Graham, or are you simply being provocative?

I suspect the latter

 

[graham]

Are you in possession of new information regarding the internal machinations of DEFRA, Graham, or are you simply being provocative?

I suspect the latter

Suspect away, old son. Truth will out.

 

[martinm]

I will ask the appropriate people.... 

 

[bograt]

Are you in possession of new information regarding the internal machinations of DEFRA, Graham, or are you simply being provocative?

I suspect the latter

Suspect away, old son. Truth will out.

Old I accept, son???, are you really over 80 years old?

 

[Peter Burgess]

Isn't the best way to reply to a simple question (even if you think it has hidden purpose) to just give a straight answer?

 

[martinm]

There will be a statement from BCA soon...

 

[Brains]

Any news yet on how DEFRA have actually changed their position re CRoW? i.e. that it does apply to caves & caving (and old mines...)?  :-\

 

[martinm]

see my previous post...

 

[graham]

Any news yet on how DEFRA have actually changed their position re CRoW? i.e. that it does apply to caves & caving (and old mines...)?  :-\

Nope, none.

 

[Brains]

I shall await Mels response in due course rather than rely on the inane utterings of an anti caver troll who delights in causing trouble to all concerned

 

[bograt]

If he thinks I'm his son, he must be a very old man, we must make allowances!

 

[graham]

8)

 

[martinm]

There was a debrief meeting last night attended by various people including BCA bods regarding the recent informal meeting with NE. There is also other research being done. I am working on trying to complete the Peak CRoW database as much as I can to contribute to a leaflet that will hopefully be ready for handout at Hidden Earth. There will be a carefully worded statement put on the BCA web site as soon as it has been carefully worded. There will be a link posted here. Be patient peeps.