Nettle Pot/Oxlow/Maskhill Fees

[EwanCameron]

Dear Caver's

The land owner of the land that contains Nettle Pot is becoming upset as some caver's are not paying the trespass fee.

Can we make every effort to pay fees in this area before it has a affect on future access. If you know of other caver's from other areas of the UK coming to visit can you pass on the info.

All caver's are to call at:
Oxlow House Farm
With ?1's in change for fees
Oxlow
Maskhill Mine
Nettle Pot 

Yours
Ewan Cameron
DCA Access Officer 

 

[Pete K]

Ewan, last time I was up there they were asking for ?2pp. Might be worth a check.

 

[Katie]

Yup - like Pete I think it has been ?2 each for a little while up  there.....

 

[al]

Yes Pete. TSG dropped Maskhill last month, and we paid ?2 per head (plus ?1 per car as we were parking at the farm).

 

[Pete K]

I was not aware that you could park at the farm. Perhaps an update to the DCA site and handbook is needed on all counts. Would like to keep them sweet as I've a bit of work to do on Oxlow Farm land according to my list.

EDIT -
Ewan meant please bring ?1 coins and not notes as they won't likely have change for 3 tenners. The fee is ?2pp in change.

 

[EwanCameron]

Yes my post says take ?1's as no one ever has change 👍😃

It's ?2 per person

 

[MJenkinson]

Hi

Is it worth discussing getting a box put up near the gate for us to drop cash off?  We went there on an evening trip and bumbling round the farm yard in the dark, dodging the clearly mental Collie and then knocking on the door is probably not appreciated by the farmer (not that they appeared in). Saves leaving coins on the drums near the back door.

Matt

 

[TomTom]

The last two times we've been we've struggled to find someone to pay. We managed eventually but took a lot of knocking and several attempts  :-\

 

[Pete K]

Having seen the damage to the Giant's box, I suspect the Oxlow farmer may not be keen. I've never had a problem leaving payment there. If no one is about then just leave the fee. If they pop over to the layby I just tell them where I left it if they were not in.
The farmyard is not on a public right of way so there won't be anyone passing who will see.
They have never given me any problems at all and never suggested leaving the money elsewhere.

 

[MJenkinson]

Just though a box on the other side of the wall near the gate in the farm would save having to go through the yard.  But don't mind either way.

Matt

 

[owd git]

ooooops, just posted on other thread.
The 'mental' ( protecting his & his masters property) can't reach you as she is on a chain. 
it is standard practice to leave cash on the window cill, how else will there be enough to fund the cats food bill?
no change? leave a note (?5-00) the chance is you'll remember next time :tease:
damn site cheaper than your 'apres - cave round of ale.
sorry if i come across harsh. It is his land.
Ric'. ( O. G.)

 

[droid]

Been the case for donkey's years there, and at Giants, P8, Gautries etc etc. It's peanuts and it keeps the farmers sweet.

 

[Gollum]

Maybe a sign on the style indicating it is not a right of way and reminding cavers to pay trespass fee.
The parking arrangement at the farm came about a couple of years ago when cars were being robbed by a team from Rotherham.

 

[dunc]

Can we make every effort to pay fees in this area before it has a affect on future access.

Just like areas that require permits; some do, some don't.. Perhaps DCA should try and negotiate better access?  :

Been the case for donkey's years there, and at Giants, P8, Gautries etc etc. It's peanuts and it keeps the farmers sweet.

Peanuts? I can buy a bag of value-salted-nuts from a large supermarket for 48p. Considering P8 starts at a ?1, Net-Mas-Ox rises to ?2 then Giants ?3, it's not quite peanuts.. 

Maybe a sign on the style indicating it is not a right of way and reminding cavers to pay trespass fee.
The parking arrangement at the farm came about a couple of years ago when cars were being robbed by a team from Rotherham.

Isn't there a sign of sorts? Few years back now, but I recall something saying not a right-of-way, probably no mention of paying though.
Parking at the farm; the guy we eventually found mentioned nothing, despite being parked in his drive trying to locate somewhere to pay! Handbook suggests further fee payable, raking it in if that's the case.

 

[EwanCameron]

Can we make every effort to pay fees in this area before it has a affect on future access.

Just like areas that require permits; some do, some don't.. Perhaps DCA should try and negotiate better access?  :

Been the case for donkey's years there, and at Giants, P8, Gautries etc etc. It's peanuts and it keeps the farmers sweet.

Peanuts? I can buy a bag of value-salted-nuts from a large supermarket for 48p. Considering P8 starts at a ?1, Net-Mas-Ox rises to ?2 then Giants ?3, it's not quite peanuts.. 

Maybe a sign on the style indicating it is not a right of way and reminding cavers to pay trespass fee.
The parking arrangement at the farm came about a couple of years ago when cars were being robbed by a team from Rotherham.

Isn't there a sign of sorts? Few years back now, but I recall something saying not a right-of-way, probably no mention of paying though.
Parking at the farm; the guy we eventually found mentioned nothing, despite being parked in his drive trying to locate somewhere to pay! Handbook suggests further fee payable, raking it in if that's the case.

What better access do we need than what we already have

1) come as often as you like
2) any day you like
3) park in the yard or pull in
4) pay a very fair ?2 per person

The farmer keeps the walls/gates/stiles in good order and has always been very friendly.

 

[Pete K]

The option to park in the yard is just that, an option. Free roadside parking is available.
As for the rest of the post, I cannot decide if you are being sarcastic. I will assume yes. I'd personally rather pay a quid or 2 to enter private land whenever I want than jump through the antiquated hoops of the permit system several months in advance.
Obviously it would be great to not have to do either but that world is not here yet.

 

[EwanCameron]

We are very lucky to have farmers in this area that are so pro caving would rather ?2 that keys & permits

 

[matthewjc]

Another vote for the tresspass fee acceess arrangement - as a non club caver much more favorable than other arrangements elsewhere....

 

[bograt]

We are very lucky to have farmers in this area that are so pro caving would rather ?2 that keys & permits

With you on that Ewan, I wish others would not overlook the experience, effort and time that DCA officers have put into stabilising access agreements to make the Peak District so easy for cavers from anywhere to "Get Their Heads Under The Sods", a spanner and / or a few quid is nothing compared to other regions.

P.S.::

Re; the poster you were responding to:

Can we make every effort to pay fees in this area before it has a affect on future access.

Just like areas that require permits; some do, some don't.. Perhaps DCA should try and negotiate better access?  :

Been the case for donkey's years there, and at Giants, P8, Gautries etc etc. It's peanuts and it keeps the farmers sweet.

Peanuts? I can buy a bag of value-salted-nuts from a large supermarket for 48p. Considering P8 starts at a ?1, Net-Mas-Ox rises to ?2 then Giants ?3, it's not quite peanuts.. 

Maybe a sign on the style indicating it is not a right of way and reminding cavers to pay trespass fee.
The parking arrangement at the farm came about a couple of years ago when cars were being robbed by a team from Rotherham.

Isn't there a sign of sorts? Few years back now, but I recall something saying not a right-of-way, probably no mention of paying though.
Parking at the farm; the guy we eventually found mentioned nothing, despite being parked in his drive trying to locate somewhere to pay! Handbook suggests further fee payable, raking it in if that's the case.

1, I recognise RRCCC as one of the founder members of, and as such, I suspect, a full member of CNCC;  BRCCC I am not so sure of but the term " Privileged Elite" comes to mind.  :-\

2, If a bag of "Value Salted" at 48p gives as much enjoyment, maybe you're in the wrong sport, very few large supermarkets own caves, although I can think of one that DCA have had access dealings with....

3,  Handbook suggests further fee payable, raking it in if that's the case;  Merely extra payment for extra security.

 

[paul]

Maybe a sign on the style indicating it is not a right of way and reminding cavers to pay trespass fee.
The parking arrangement at the farm came about a couple of years ago when cars were being robbed by a team from Rotherham.

Isn't there a sign of sorts? Few years back now, but I recall something saying not a right-of-way, probably no mention of paying though.

Yes, there is a sign on the gate from the roadside field into the field conatining the Oxlow and Maskhill entrances.