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Tankard Shaft Dig

Duncan S

New member
Cheers TOR!
Ours is Yellow Ochre; a sort of vivid Lemon colour.
The only red colours we have seen is on the edge of Limestone chunks which we think have been metamorphosed by the Stockhill Fault.
Sandbags - hadn't thought of those. They would have certainly avoided the collapses or our spoil in the breakthrough that we fought to stabilise last week.
Loving your scaffold tubing!
 

Duncan S

New member
Peter Burgess said:
I found last night that simply dragging trugs in and out of a dead-end crawl created temporary draughts like a piston, which in our case is good as it stirs up the stuffy air. I wonder if pulling buckets in and out of a narrow shaft might be inducing a draught on a "neutral" dig session, where there might not have been a strong incentive for the air to move in any particular direction?
We are definitely changing the air movement with our presence. Part of the problem is that most parts of the dig are connected and this has proved to be the main reason the draught was so hard to pin down. Circulation through the connected chambers creates a confusing picture of what is happening.

Fortunately, it is easy to tell where the draught is strongest as the cave feels significantly cold and fresh near where it is entering.
Last time I was down at the draughting leads it felt positively chilly!
 

mrodoc

Well-known member
Walling in an ever deepening downward direction is not easy. We are cementing upwards from the acro props then when another is fitted below we shall cement upwards to fill in the space between. The sandbags, whilst not everyone's idea of cave friendly, have been useful in building walls to support loose areas. The gravel fill is ideal as the bags can be hammered in flat and chocked with rocks.





We are still debating on whether to be part of Mendip Digfest this Summer.
[/quote]Frpm our photos you can see the ledge under the acro that we are planning to wall up from. My current concern is the wall in front!
 

Duncan Price

Active member
bograt said:
Ever thought of throwing a couple of handfuls of cement in your 'sandbags'?

That's what we've been doing in Wookey Hole - actually we took in a 1 tonne dumpy bag to fill with spoil thickened with cement but ended up mixing cement with the gloopy mud and using it as mortar to build a wall (using what rocks we could find) and dumping the rest of the must behind this.  Sand bags rot or abrade away eventually so unless you bind the fill together it will just slump out again.
 

mrodoc

Well-known member
We are moving some and stacking others but it is a really good suggestion. I think we are currently a bit concerned about making some of the stacks too permanent until we know we are going the right way.
 

bograt

Active member
mrodoc said:
I think we are currently a bit concerned about making some of the stacks too permanent until we know we are going the right way.

Yes, I can see that as being a problem.  (y)
 

Duncan S

New member
Thursday 5th May 2016
Andrew Atkinson, Miri Pihlaja, Sarah Payne, Tim Payne, Duncan Simey
Surveying plus a bit of digging

Amazing weather! Feels like an early summer has arrived, which is bizarre considering just a week ago we were complaining about snow and hail flurries.
:eek:

Andrew offered to survey the new Tankard Shaft passage, so assisted by Duncan Simey they worked from one of Duncan Price's original survey points in The Well down through the breakthrough into the new stuff with Duncan S driving the Disto and Andrew driving the tablet. The good news is that the original estimate of 125ft of new passage has been confirmed with a total of 46m (138ft) of new passage length being shot during the session.

Once surveying was complete and Andrew went on his way, there was just enough time for couple of hours digging. Duncan filled buckets in The Well, Miri carried them through the tight passageway to the shaft, and Tim plus Sarah hauled buckets up the shaft and dumped them in the trailer. It was decided to attack the pile of fill from the breakthrough stacked in The Well and temporarily stabilised using a ladder and numerous scaffold poles. Two hours later all breakthrough fill had been removed back down to the fill left behind by the miners. Unfortunately the original fill needs removing because the weight of the breakthrough fill destabilised the original fill and it is currently on the move. In a future session we need to remove enough of the original fill to leave a stable slope over the breakthrough hole. Fingers crossed the remaining fill will be stable enough for the ladder and scaffold to be removed.

Photos today from Duncan and Miri.

Andrew driving the surveying tablet checking Duncan managed to drive the Disto correctly.
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Duncan, Andrew and Sarah getting ready to head down the shaft for surveying.
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Charlie the Dig Dog with Andrew before heading underground
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Sarah sorting out her social media in the sunshine.
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Miri's boot covered in mud after the digging session
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Miri dragging buckets from The Well to the bottom of the shaft
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Miri covered in best quality Mendip mud :)
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It wasn't just Miri's over-suit that got muddy!
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Duncan relaxing on the stove after the digging session.
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We probably only have one more digging session with the trailer before it is taken away for use elsewhere on the farm. We need to finish stabilising the breakthrough by removing as much excess fill as possible.
 

Duncan S

New member
The survey results are in!
Many thanks to Andrew Atkinson for the speedy processing. Apologies for the delay posting as I've needed to get my head around Survex to make sense of the .3D file Andrew sent.
I've edited the screenshots to add annotations.

Plan of the new stuff.
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Profile of the new stuff looking West.
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Some observations on the survey and from discussions with Andrew while conducting the survey.

The start of the survey used one of Duncan Price's survey points located on the wedged boulder used to climb up from The Well to the Middle Chamber. We should be able to merge the data.

The survey paths don't really give a good feel for the centre line of the descending passage, they need to be read in conjunction with the splay lines.

The sight lines from the Drafting Feature and from the bottom of the dig are most encouraging. They are making significant progress away from the vertical crystal rift that runs from the bottom of the shaft, past the start of this survey through to the area where the miners have been enthusiastically excavating crystals. The crystals are believed to be the Stockhill Fault and the rock on either side is often completely different. The direction of the sightlines is straight towards Tankard Hole and they are draughting strongly and consistently.

It is becoming clear the what we assumed about the bottom of the dig isn't true.
We removed the wall at the bottom of the shaft and one of the sightlines is taken into the ongoing passage. Unfortunately, the sightline ends at a vertical rift wall with a rubble floor. It is also now clear that what we believed was an excavated crawl at ankle level is actually a significant widening of the main rift; the sightline ends at another vertical rift wall with a rubble floor. The rubble looks like it may have been put there by the miners while excavating the crystal rifts; hey ho...

What we now feel is happening, is that the large descending rift turns downwards becoming increasingly vertical. We need to clear the rubble out from the floor to get a better understanding of what the rift walls are doing. The rift walls and roof look reassuringly solid and digging down ought to be a pleasant enough task. A lot of the rubble can be walled into the Dodgy Chamber which will greatly increase our peace of mind working at the bottom of the dig.

In summary - major progress!
The dream of connecting through to Tankard Hole is another step closer :)
 

Trogladite

New member
Hi, to the  Tankard Shaft diggers.
I read with interest your dig reports supported with great  photos, well done  :clap:
It realy sounds an exiting project with hopefully, something further down leading to the Tankard Hole cave system !  :D
I now live in South Africa and can see the Indian Ocean from my front Stoop, so a long way from caves.
I know the Mendips as I was in the RAF doing my National Service and was stationed at RAF Locking  at WSM. I used to go caving in your area on our Wednesday Sports days.
Great reports, keep it up and GOOD LUCK. :beer:
Cheers from Peter, an ex Peak District caver back in the 50,s.
 

mrodoc

Well-known member
Talking to Brian Prewer recently he said that the final bit of passage that could be viewed but not entered in Tankard Hole was rift passage which is interesting.
 

Duncan S

New member
mrodoc said:
Talking to Brian Prewer recently he said that the final bit of passage that could be viewed but not entered in Tankard Hole was rift passage which is interesting.
Cheers Peter - that's new information!

The relevant section from the original digging report is as follows....
The final section of the cave is reached at Horror Chamber and here are more eroded remains of dripstone formations - a flow, straws and curtains; there is also a mud flow on the wall and some small mud stalagmites.  Under the north-west wall a hole leads down into another small chamber that has an incoming stream passage but water is only seen under very wet conditions, the water dropping into a very narrow rift and re-appearing in the unsurveyed cave below.  Another passage, the deepest so far surveyed, also gave a light connection with the cave underneath.  In the roof is a connection with the northern corner of Horror Chamber and also with the chamber above Horror Chamber - all are unstable.  At the top of Horror Chamber is a hole in loose boulders dropping at about 45? and leading to a passage, and through two more squeezes, to the final chamber.  A rope must be used because it is necessary to reduce any disturbing force to a minimum.  A large passage can be seen underneath but this has not been entered and great care will be needed when it is.
 

Duncan S

New member
Wed 11th May 2016
Sarah Payne, Duncan Simey, Tim Payne, Paul Hadfield, Estelle Sandford, Mike Moxon
Dig fever resulting in an exciting discovery plus a huge session clearing out The Well

The plan was for Sarah and Duncan to start early afternoon working to stabilise the Dodgy Chamber, then change tasks when the others arrived early evening.
However, plans change...

Duncan wanted to do some smoke testing before they had been in the cave long. The Drafting Feature was drafting and the bottom of the dig was drafting even more strongly.
The inevitable happened; they got fired up and all thoughts of working in the Dodgy Chamber were put aside. Sarah and Duncan started attacking the bottom of the dig trying to find the way on.
They thought the rift was starting to head down vertically down, so the first attack was on the floor of the dig enlarging the sightline to the North so it could be entered. What we found was interesting but slightly disappointing. The West side of the floor is a man-made wall supporting the floor of the ascending passage. The wall continues on down below the point we reached. Duncan forced himself into the enlarged hole and smoke revealed there was no air movement, which was odd because we had already seen air movement in there. The draught was eventually found coming out from under a boulder at the entrance to the hole from the roughly the East and this was strong enough to swirl air in the hole until Duncan's body blocked it. A few boulders were removed and a light connection was made under the floor to a point nearer the end of the dig.
Although the mysterious wall is a puzzle, the way on following the draft is unlikely to be here, so the attack changed direction.

Initially the team couldn't get into the far end of the dig because of the huge boulder reported previously; the one that had been walled in by the miners. But removing rocks around the big boulder left it rocking gently. Duncan was able to roll it into the hole they had just excavated and it eventually settled Tomb Raider style almost perfectly sealing the hole heading North. This meant we couldn't use the hole for stacking rocks and there is no way to get it out of there without chemical persuasion, but at least it is no longer an obstacle to digging. Sarah and Duncan pulled boulders out of the end of the dig hauling them up the rift with the best rock kept to one side for wall building in the Dodgy Chamber.
At this point Sarah noticed the air flow in the Drafting Feature had reversed. The hypothesis is that the feature is connected to the bottom of the dig and a strong chimney effect from the two of us working in the rift was enough to suck air out of the Drafting Feature. This is great news as it probably means we won't have to treat the Drafting Feature as a separate lead and there is no need to sort the boulder Jenga stability problems at it's entrance.

What Sarah and Duncan found in the end of the dig was most encouraging.
Duncan opened up a body sized crawl allowing him to see a tight rift heading off North. This has highly scalloped walls and some interesting mud formations and has a good draft coming from it. The floor of the tight rift is mud and might prove to be capable of being opened up.
Reversing his crawl, Duncan turned onto his back and suddenly felt a draft on his face strong enough it was like being under a fan. Smoke indicated it was coming between boulders in the roof of the crawl which at this point is out of arms reach. The bad news is that we have lost the flat solid roof that covers the rest of the descending rift and it looks like stability could be an issue following this lead. However... It was time to head to the surface to meet the others, but we had two solid leads for the future.

Before heading to the surface, Sarah and Duncan swapped over so Sarah could have a look at the two leads.
Before long, Duncan heard Sarah say she just wanted a quick look at something. Moments later she was whooping loudly which she does when testing for echoes. Duncan was confused! What the heck was happening?
Sarah had removed a boulder at floor level from the East most point of the crawl before it turned towards the tight rift, and something very odd is happening! She had opened up a letterbox sized hole with no obvious sightline, but the acoustics have utterly changed. We have nothing sounding like this elsewhere in the dig. There is a strong vocal resonance that in most circumstances would indicate a decent sized chamber. The draft coming out the hole is impressive and strong enough that Duncan now thinks his earlier smoke testing the draft wasn't coming out the hole in the roof, but was being blasted up the roof from the hole at floor level and getting deflected downwards by hanging rock.
It's very exciting! The rock here doesn't look like miners have been involved and once again we are thinking we could have virgin cave passage on the other side.
There are several large boulders that need to be moved before this hole can be enlarged. Although Sarah and Duncan badly wanted to carry on digging, they needed to make the most of the help that was arriving at the dig and it was time to call a halt.
We can't wait to get back!

This was planned to be the last digging session with the trailer as it needs to be returned to farm duties. Hence we wanted a big push to get as much as possible to the surface.
The goal was to remove all the fill from The Well so we could get rid of the improvised scaffold and ladder stabilisation. Duncan, Sarah, Estelle and Paul filled and passed buckets to the bottom of the shaft, with Mike and Tim bucket hauling and trailer filling at the surface. Nobody had it easy, it was heavy hard work. But the amount of stuff shifted broke all site records and we achieved our goal. Not only has the breakthrough fill been removed, but most of the Miners fill too! The ladder and scaffold tubing is now stored in the lower chamber for future use and The Well looks wonderful.
The only problem was that Duncan misjudged how far one of the scaffold tubes went into a huge wall of stacked deads, and as the large hanging boulders at the bottom of the fill slid down into the breakthrough it levered the scaffold and almost brought the whole wall down. A proper brown trouser moment. The wall was tamped back into place and isn't looking very reassuring but was considered adequate for the moment. The wall hangs over the breakthrough and a priority job will be to do something about it, either cementing to firm it up, or removing it completely.
The session was concluded by Sarah giving Estelle and Mike a guided tour through the lower passages and proudly showing them our exciting new lead.

A few pics...
Duncan was using his backup caving light which is unsuitable for cave photography, so on-camera flash was used for these shots. Fortunately, there is enough air movement in the dig that breath soon clears making this possible.

Sarah in the new crawl at the bottom of the dig. This shot has been taken looking almost vertically downwards. The hole by her knee is all that remains of the initial work to clear out a crawlable tube off to the left (North). Her left arm is around the corner towards the tight rift heading North and the exciting new hole with the interesting acoustics are at arms length in front of her.
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This is what the Drafting Feature currently looks like. Sarah and Duncan have been using it to store boulders pulled out the bottom of the dig. Fingers crossed we will never need to follow this lead :)
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This is what The Well now looks like above the breakthrough viewed from the ramp up to Chamber 1. The shot of the improvised stabilisation is for comparison. The slope is not as vertical as this photo makes it look and the boulders in the middle of the new image are reassuringly stable (either bedrock or extremely large boulders).
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The view above the previous shot. The ladder and scaffold tubes give scale and are in the crawl through to the Lower Chamber. Below the ladder is a thigh high wall of deads above a stable slope of mud and rock leading to the breakthrough below. The huge wall of stacked deads that almost collapsed is tucked out of sight on the right.
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Sarah crawling back through the breakthrough viewed from the ramp up to Chamber 1.
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In summary...
An immensely exciting new lead which is drafting strongly and has acoustics that sound like there is a void.
We shifted a prodigious amount of rock and clay from The Well and removed the scaffold tubing stabilisation.
 

mrodoc

Well-known member
We are having fun with draughts in our dig. Plenty of air moving but all over the place. Looks similar as well although cleaner!
 

Duncan S

New member
mrodoc said:
We are having fun with draughts in our dig. Plenty of air moving but all over the place. Looks similar as well although cleaner!
LOL - it's Mendip mud - nothing better anywhere in the UK.

Digging awards this year are going to be a fantastic celebration - so much is being achieved by so many teams - it will be a privilege to be there and listen to the reports.
 

Duncan S

New member
Mon 16th May 2016
Sarah Payne, Tim Payne, Duncan Simey
Reinforcing the shaft entrance

We were comparing notes with other digger in the Hunters the other night, and our lead seems to tick most of the boxes on what most diggers consider the ideal lead.
So... We have decided to take a step back and perform the remedial work needed to secure our way in and out of the dig before opening the lead.
Yes it is frustrating, but it is 100% the right thing to do.

The aim is to work progressively from the shaft entrance down to the lead.
A rough hit-list for attention is as follows.
- Loose rocks under the shaft lid
- Make sure the shaft wall at the bottom exposed during the excavations is stable. The wall stops before the bottom of the shaft and we need to make sure it is seated on something solid.
- Hole 1 is a nasty loose nightmare and we need to make sure any deterioration won't affect the route in and out of the dig.
- Chamber 1 roof is the same feature as Hole 1 and although initial inspection looked OK we need to attack it with a crowbar to see if it as stable as we think.
- Duncan's Deads above the Well. Duncan Price brought the bottom layer down on his shoulders and the rest are being held up by a precarious looking arch. These could roll into the breakthrough.
- Deads on the East side of the well loosened when a scaffold tube unfortunately levered them away from the wall. These hang above the breakthrough.
- The passage from the breakthrough to the Dodgy Chamber, roof looked OK on first inspection but it is all broken rock and we need to use a crowbar to check its stability.
- The Dodgy Chamber was named because on the first visit every time one of us went through it a rock rolled out of somewhere. We plan to build a wall between our route and the rest of the chamber. It's not as bad as it sounds as the roof over the way on is only a stooping passage and we can easily build a wall right to the roof.
- Tidy up the lower rift as there are rocks stacked on every horizontal surface which could easily be dislodged.

As you can see there is lots to do!
It's going to be a while before we get back to opening up our lead.

Tonight we removed all the loose rock under the entrance.
This has been caused by the ground shrinking in the exceptionally dry weather we have been having.
The shaft wall was rebuilt using four buckets of cement and a lot of fresh rock.
It's not quite finished, and is first on the hit list for the next session.

In summary:
The lead will not be opened until we have secured our way in and out of the dig.
The loose rock under the entrance lid is looking in far better condition after tonight's session.

Sarah showing the scale of the spoil removed in the recent digging sessions.
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It may be lovely and warm during the daytime, but it got blimmin cold on the surface once the sun set, so the stove proved a godsend.
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We can't wait to get back to the dig-face!
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Duncan S

New member
Wed 18th May 2016
Sarah Payne, Tim Payne, Duncan Simey
Rock Net time

In a slight diversion from the plan to sort out the remedial work needed to secure the way in/out of the dig, we decided to do a little preparation for the future.
First up was an attempt to cap one of the large boulders previously brought to the surface. We have uses in mind for capping including making a couple of boulders on the floor of the Dodgy Chamber a more manageable size so we can tidy up the chamber.
Unfortunately, Duncan's household drill wasn't man enough for the job and the drill bit barely got even 1cm before we gave up.
Very disappointing as we were all looking forward to splitting some rocks.
We need to sort out a proper drill :)

Next up was the DB Rock Net which looks like a work of art.
We've had it a few weeks and when we tried it with a direct pull it proved far too heavy and the attempt had to be abandoned.
This time we set up a 3:1 pulley and it worked a treat!
We spent the session hauling large rocks from the bottom of the shaft that were getting in the way. Everything at the bottom of the shaft now needs buckets but that work is relatively low priority other than we are getting one more session before the trailer is removed and is seems sensible to get rid of as much as possible while we can.

While the Rock Net was being turned around on the surface, Duncan spent the time being slightly naughty having a quick dig in the floor of the shaft. He dug down to arms length and has opened up a sight line 3-4ft beyond almost straight down.
The interesting thing is that this hole quickly passed the floor of the SE rift and is following a wall of solid rock.
Goodness knows where it is going! Definitely one to come back to in the future.

Sarah sorting ropes in preparation for our first 3:1 pulley, which worked a treat!
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Tim being fitted with a proper harness. You can assume that we are expecting to need them soon!
LOL - this would make a good caption competition image  :LOL:
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For those who haven't seen Duncan recently, he is now clean shaven.
Feedback is that it looks OK, but will take some getting used to!
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Selfie time in dig HQ!
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One of the tasks Duncan undertook while waiting for the rock net to be hauled up the shaft was to remove some slumped clay from the wall of Chamber 1 above the ramp down to the breakthrough. During the breakthrough this had been plastered onto the stack of deads forming the wall of the chamber and it seems it doesn't want to stay there. The right edge of the image is more plastered clay, but hopefully that will stay put.
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This is the view from the top of the breakthrough ramp in Chamber 1. The breakthrough is below and climbing over the jammed boulders gives access to the top of The Well chamber and onwards to the Middle Chamber. There is no sense of scale, but both routes are big enough that they can be done upright.
Worth noting that the start of Andrew Atkinson's survey of the new stuff was the top right hand side of the second jammed boulder, hence the big drop recorded at the start of the survey. Before we dug this out it wasn't possible to crawl under the nearest jammed boulder. Most of the fill is now on the surface; we have made huge progress here!
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Removing large boulders from the bottom of the shaft revealed this rather stunning coloured boulder. We need to extract this for display in dig HQ! The hole next to it has a sightline of about 2.5-3ft straight down through what is almost certainly back-fill by the miners.
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This is the Southern corner of the shaft where Duncan was having a quick dig down while waiting for the return of the Rock Net. The hole is arms length deep. The floor of the SE rift enters under the jammed boulder top left and turns vertical. The floor is a combination of miners fill and debris from the collapsed ginging.
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Shoving the camera to the lowest point looking down an intriguing sightline that goes another 3-4ft straight down.
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The jammed boulder in the SE rift has a mountain of debris on top of it waiting to be dug out. It is currently being used to stash buckets and the Tankard Shaft Tankard.
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Finally, this is a high priority item on the ToDo list. Looking back up the shaft you can just make out a stack of deads at the top of the image which are about 8ft above the current floor. These form the bottom of the shaft ginging and we need to clean them up to make sure they are resting on something substantial and are adequately stable.
The original fill level was about where the top of the image is - we have made a lot of progress!
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