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Tankard Shaft Dig

Duncan S

New member
mrodoc said:
I have a copy of the publication.
You do!
The electronic version on the BEC is missing the elevation diagrams. I sort of recovered one of the two cross sections, but the bit just out of shot is quite important to us at the moment as it could be our connection point.
Any chance I could meet up with you and photograph the missing bit ?
Happy to travel :)
 

Duncan S

New member
Saturday 20th Feb 2016
Sarah Payne, Duncan Simey, Mark Vaughan
Opening up the Pit in the furthest chamber

One of the two leads identified in the last digging trip was the Pit in the furthest chamber.
The mission for this trip was to remove the cap from the pit and descend for an explore, and also to do some smoke testing to see if we can work out where the draught is coming from.

The pit is very interesting!
The miners have obviously been down there as there is a small rift of beautiful Calcite crystals that has been excavated by the miners, and a couple of small walls of stacked deads. This excavated rift was one of the two ways on we could see peering in the top during the previous visit.
We presume the Pit was capped by the miners when they had worked it to its conclusion.
Opposite the excavated rift is a natural rift that got us rather excited. There is some small scalloping visible on the walls, and it does look like water formed passage. It is also draughting nicely!
Unfortunately, there is a lot of debris in the rift. Presumably once the miners decided working in there was complete they used it as a dumping ground.
Sarah dived in ending up head first as far as was prudent, the water formed rift splits left and right with a possible cross rift visible that might reconnect them.
We were all feeling elated; this location offers a real possibility of breaking out of the mine into natural cave!

Sarah and Duncan worked their way out of the mine using smoke to check out the other big draughting area in the wall next to the Well; a pit in the floor with a man made wall descending well below the level of fill.
The smoke quickly indicated the draught wasn't coming from the wall in the chamber, but from the passage leading from the edge of the Pit into the lowest of three stacked boulder chambers.
Duncan was puzzled as the smoke indicated the draught didn't seem to be coming out of the fractured wall we expected to be the source. He eventually found it at ankle level coming from under a boulder. So, contorting his body up into a crack he lay head down to get a look under the boulder and immediately could see a natural rift feature!
Both Duncan and Sarah suddenly realised this might be the same rift we had been looking at from the Pit.
Sarah headed back to the Pit, and before long we could see each other through the rift, not just our lights!
It seems there is something in the rift that is draughting strongly enough to give a good draught out of both the Pit and the Well!

We now have an ideal location to attack in an attempt to break out of the mine, and it's in the general direction of Tankard Hole, and the rock looks nice and stable!
We are feeling increasingly confident we may be able to make connection, which would be one heck of an achievement. We would be able to push Tankard Hole's dig which was abandoned in the late fifties at roughly 200ft depth (surveyed to 150ft) with ongoing large passage visible but not entered.
It's very exciting!

No pics today - Duncan had his camera with him but didn't take it out his pocket!
 

Roger W

Well-known member
Duncan S said:
No pics today - Duncan had his camera with him but didn't take it out his pocket!

:spank:  :spank:  :spank:

Come on, Duncan - we're all on the edge of our armchairs waiting for the latest pictures!
 

tony from suffolk

Well-known member
This is tremendously exciting stuff!  Tankard Hole's always held a special fascination for me, so wishing you the best of luck, downwards and onwards good folk!
 

mrodoc

Well-known member
Looking forward to the pint :beer: or perhaps some celebratory champagne. Can't you feel that silver shovel in your grasp :)
 

Duncan S

New member
Cap'n Chris said:
NOT SO HASTY!!!!

Grebe will win the silver shovel.

Just don't know which year.
Don't worry - your silver shovel is safe.
We don't (and won't) have enough new passage to even bother applying for the digging awards even if we make a connection.
If Tankard Hole counted (and it wont), it's all vertical; so barely adds to the needed total.
Even in our wildest dreams we will barely make the minimum requirement for the awards.
So Tankard is never going to be a challenge to any other dig's moment of glory.

On the other hand...
Tankard could be a game changer for caving on the Eastern side of the Mendip plateau.
So we would still be able to rock up at the digging awards with out heads held high, even if we are unlikely to ever be in with a chance at the silver shovel.
And that would make us very happy :)
 

Duncan S

New member
Oh - and another major step today.....
Our call out was on the Wessex board.
It was the first time Tankard has been posted by the current generation of cavers.
May not seem a big step - but it feels that way to our dig team :)
 

Duncan S

New member
tamarmole said:
How far  do you reckon you are from Tankard Hole?
One of the goals this week is to conduct a proper survey, so we will have a much better idea soon.

My back of a beer mat mathematics indicate we are about half way there. Also, there is a small extension South from Tankard Hole which might help us a little; all depends on exactly which bearing the mine has taken.
 

mrodoc

Well-known member
I was chatting to Brian Prewer yesterday one of the original diggers. He says that although most of the main part of Tankard was in boulders, at the bottom they could see into a rift in solid rock.
 

Duncan S

New member
mrodoc said:
I was chatting to Brian Prewer yesterday one of the original diggers. He says that although most of the main part of Tankard was in boulders, at the bottom they could see into a rift in solid rock.
Between Tankard Shaft and Tankard hole is an area of the field that appears not to have sunk since it was bulldozer landscaped.
Hence the original supposition was that we were in a different vertical feature and would be unlikely to make a connection.
Finger crossed the draughting rift we have located will take us through the stable bit of ground into the Tankard Hole boulder ruckle.

However, due North from the shaft and due West from Tankard Hole is part of the field that has sunk about 2m and is now a sizeable depression.
It's possible the draught is from there, and not Tankard Hole; in which case all bets are off about what we will find!
Only time will tell...
 

Duncan S

New member
Tue 23rd Feb 2016
Duncan Price, Sarah Payne, Duncan Simey
Surveying the mine

Duncan P offered to survey the mine for us.
He took GPS readings of the shaft entrance, and our best estimate of where Tankard Hole entrance was located and aims to combine them on a single survey.
He's used the Tankard Hole survey provided by mrodoc to create a 3D representation in his survey software, so we should be able to tell which way we need to go and how close we are.
All excellent news and we are all waiting with eager anticipation for his findings.

It will also be interesting to hear where Duncan P thinks our mine fits on his Brown Trouser scale.
He had a small wall of stacked deads collapse on his shoulders, and if it hadn't been for a natural arch in the wall preventing a major collapse we'd have probably abandoned surveying at that point.
Discussion in the Hunters indicates this is a long way from being the most scary place he has explored, but it's not 'that' stable either. I think he described it as 'interesting'.
Part of the problem is that this isn't virgin cave which he has a good feel for; things are only as stable as the miners bothered leaving them, and things that appear stable may not be.

Sarah helped with the surveying while Duncan S ferreted around with the can of smoke trying to make some sense of the draught.
Despite rising air pressure from an approaching high pressure system, there was noticeable air movement in the mine. The usual suspects were still draughting well, but the shock discovery was a hole Duncan had previously discounted which had the strongest draught of the night. The big pile of stacked deads in the furthest chamber has a sort of ramp running up the back that curves around from the chamber via a natural arch, the draught was from the entry to this curved ramp. At this point we have no idea where the draught is coming from, but it looks like the miners didn't stack the deads right up to the back wall for a reason. This definitely needs investigation!
The other puzzle is that we still don't know where the draught goes to. Very little of it is blowing up the shaft.

The other activity Duncan S performed was to dig out one end of the double ended rift feature we are now calling Crystal Rift. This is the draughting rift in which Sarah had spotted a large slab of crystals during our previous session.
With access now available, Sarah recovered the slab of crystals. The main slab is still at the bottom of the Pit, but she brought out a chunk about the size of two house bricks which we proudly displayed in the Hunters to much Ooooo-ing and Ahhhh-ing. It's a vein of Calcite crystals several inches thick and looks beautiful.
We also have good samples of the soft yellow rock littering the mine, and the even softer burnt orange rock found in occasional corners. The soft orange rock is quite heavy; maybe it is Iron?

On the previous trip we removed the cap from the Pit in the furthest chamber, this photo is looking straight down the Pit. Sarah is perched on a ledge less than half way down keeping out the way of Duncan P surveying at the bottom. You can see his Peli case in this shot, it's about 3m from the opening into the Pit.
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Another view into the Pit. Sarah is looking at the far wall which isn't stable and must not be touched.
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A close up of Duncan P writing his survey notes at the bottom of the Pit.
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Regardless of what Duncan P's survey shows, the next phases are as follows....
1) Dig out the bottom of the shaft. The mud is horrendous and the squeeze through the mud will make working beyond the shaft problematic. It should be straight forward to sort this out!
2) Remove a good chunk of the debris cone in the first chamber. This is debris from Hole 1 and we are wondering if it is covering another way on; we still don't know how the draught is leaving the mine (it's not by the shaft). It will also make the first chamber a more pleasant place to be :)
3) Stabilise the stacked deads Duncan P demonstrated are not as stable as we had thought. This is important as they hang over the Well (one end of Crystal Rift) and are (were!) the obvious step up into the way on to the far chamber and the Pit (the other end of Crystal Rift). All our draughting leads rely on this wall being stable!

The above steps ought to keep us busy for quite a few sessions, during which we need to monitor the draught to see what other surprises it reveals and to help decide where to attack next.
 

Duncan S

New member
That was fast!  :bow:
Duncan Price has sent us the initial survey.

Centreline plan and cross section facing N.  Tankard Hole survey digitised from R D Stenner (1961?).  No compass corrections applied (yet).

The mine is predominantly NW-SE and not heading towards Tankard Hole.

Total length of survey shots =  57.57m
Total plan length of survey shots =  38.59m
Total vertical length of survey shots =  32.87m
Vertical range = 13.06m
North-South range = 15.07m
East-West range = 8.98m

Plan with North at the top.
Tankard Shaft is bottom-left and Tankard Hole is top-right.
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Link to the original http://www.wild-landscapes.co.uk/Other/Tankard-Shaft/i-4wVdbKQ/0/O/tankard_plan.png

Elevation looking North.
Tankard Shaft is top-left and Tankard Hole is on the right.
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Link to the original http://www.wild-landscapes.co.uk/Other/Tankard-Shaft/i-Xrpnsm7/0/O/tankard_elevation.png
 

Duncan S

New member
Well...
It's not quite what I had hoped for -  but it's a mix of good and bad news :-[

The highlight of the bad news is that we aren't making any progress towards Tankard Hole.
It's increasingly likely that we won't be able to make a connection.
Which is a shame...

The highlight of the good news is that we aren't making any progress towards Tankard Hole.
This is a relief! We have a fighting chance of avoiding the scary boulder Jenga in Tankard Hole by following our draughting lead through natural cave.

We will know more once we open up the draughting lead and see where it heads.
Watch this space!
 

Duncan S

New member
I mentioned that on the last digging trip Sarah brought out a lump of crystal bigger than a house brick.
It has been cleaned and looks fantastic!
Here's a couple of pics.

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We still don't know what was being mined.
It is increasingly clear that the miners were excavating veins of these crystals, but what were they after?
Opinions are welcome!
 
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