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the cavers thesaurus

Cartwright26

New member
Ok so during my times as a caver i have learnt that when  your buddy tells you to head on through/up/down that and you ask what said obstacle is like? you get a reply of its interesting! what they actually mean is it downright bloody aweful. I have also learnt that "a bit" of an exposed climb means a fear inducing death defying balancing act often at great height with f*** all to hold on to. What other sayings do people have for underground descriptives and what is the real meaning there must be some cracking ones about!
 

caving_fox

Active member
'a bit damp' =  swimming
slightly aqueous =  hold your breath
' a little tight' = who needs ribs anyway.

My favourites are some of Ali Moody's wonderful phrases in the Swildon's book. Well worth reading. 'for the discerning collector', 'a must see for passage tickers' = absolutely desperate grovels that don't go anywhere.
 

Cartwright26

New member
Ill give it a read thanks. I did a brief search but couldnt find a thread sorry.
caving_fox said:
, 'a must see for passage tickers' = absolutely desperate grovels that don't go anywhere.
ive been caught out with this one before
 

tamarmole

Active member
Before I saw the light and became a mine explorer I used to potter about in the caves and windypits of the North York Moors.  This culminated in my co -  writing "Moorland Caver" the area guide.  The one bit of "caver speak" that still amuses me is my description of Bogg Hall cave:

"The Duck consists of a submerged slab lying across the passage.  Although there is an airspace above the slab, the best (and most entertaining) way to pass it is a short, 1m free dive under it (mask useful).  It is best tackled thus: Remove helmet and hold it under the slab with the right hand, insert legs under the slab, place left arm under the slab and grab the far side of it , lie back and raise legs, take a deep breath and pull yourself through with your left arm.  It is possible that the first pull might not get you through, if this happens a shove with the right hand usually does the trick.  Try not to surface too enthusiastically  as you will crack your head on the low roof - not recommended.  From this point things start to get sporting!  Turn left into a low airspace (10cm - 15cm) canal known as The Drain.  This looks frighteningly narrow but bells out under water.  The Drain is best entered feet first on one's side, nose and mouth up in the roof.  A helmet is something of an encumbrance here and is best held out in front.  Use the lower arm to propel oneself along the passage , blowing water out of your mouth as you progress 
(the return journey is easier as you are borne along by the water).  This is not a place to panic - stay cool, lie back and enjoy the experience."

Note the use of classic guide book terms including "entertaining" and "sporting"; euphemisms for "desperate" and  "life threatening" respectively.  Also classic caver's half truths  such as it "bells out underwater".  Re reading the description fifteen years after I wrote it I can see why I became a mine explorer!

 

PeteHall

Moderator
My university club (DUSA) had (and still has) an excellent cavers thesaurus, covering a range of common guidebook terms.

A favourite entry has to be:
?Immature Passage?

Geological meaning: The passage is newly formed (relative to the age of the Earth anyway).

Speleological meaning: The passage is the diameter of an anorexic drain pipe, with a pitifully-small and muddy stream trickling slowly down it. Pippikin and Bye George Pots in Easegill are prime examples of immature caves (i.e. sodding tight!).

The full thesaurus is here: http://community.dur.ac.uk/speleological.association/euphemisms.html and is well worth a read if you have a few minutes  (y)
 

Amy

New member
Caves are formed by erosion, corrosion, and torodsion. The last one being bill torode using a stick of dynamite to open up an entrance or choke.
 

Amy

New member
No ladder or srt kit? No problem. Just use Torode's pole.

A tree he dragged in and leaned up to climb up somewhere. They still exist but rather weary degraded versions.
 

Graigwen

Active member
Amy said:
No ladder or srt kit? No problem. Just use Torode's pole.

A tree he dragged in and leaned up to climb up somewhere. They still exist but rather weary degraded versions.



You mean like this?https://www.flickr.com/photos/11409438@N06/4907264866/in/album-72157620557572135/lightbox/
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(Eglwys Faen c1969)


 
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