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Online Prof. Warthog

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Dales dye tracing database
« on: November 23, 2020, 06:40:17 pm »
During the pandemic we have been trying to collate records of all the dye traces undertaken in the Yorkshire Dales karst. Our intention is to make this resource available to all. Having made a start on the project we are now seeking input from the caving community. The information we are looking for is:

Area (from the Northern Caves guide book)

Injection point name and NGR

Detection point name and NGR

Tracer details (what and how much)

Detection method (visual, cotton wool etc.)

Date of the test

Who undertook the trace, the

Details of where it is recorded and any notes you feel relevant (e.g.
water levels)

We appreciate not all details will be available for every test and we are happy to accept test which have not been recorded in the literature so please get searching through your libraries and notes. This should hopefully provide a great resource to aid our hydrological understanding and caving exploration potential.

We have already covered the classic YGPS studies of Ingleborough and Malham

Please send your entries to g.proudlove[at]manchester.ac.uk  (remembering to replace [at] with @)

The master database is not globally accessible but a copy of it will be available to all on Google Sheets. This is currently being developed.

Phil Murphy and Graham Proudlove

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Re: Dales dye tracing database
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2020, 09:01:58 am »
Hello,

I can't help you with any data.  I only can give you the following link

https://cartes.ternum-bfc.fr/?config=apps/dreal-bourgogne-franche-comte/carte-eau.xml#

This application shows a lot of information about dye tracing in France . I might help / give you ideas of how to develop an application for showing your data.

BR
« Last Edit: November 24, 2020, 09:20:59 am by Leclused »
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Re: Dales dye tracing database
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2020, 04:30:34 pm »
I am building the dye tracing database as an Excel Table which is a good way of handling quadrangular data sets. It is also very searchable and sortable. Currently it is on Onedrive. I am still thinking about the best way to share the Table and make it read-only. I will communicate this once I have sorted it out. We have one new result already submitted.

Graham Proudlove

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Re: Dales dye tracing database
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2020, 11:57:42 am »
A quick reminder to keep searching out those dye trace records - Thanks

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Re: Dales dye tracing database
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2020, 02:58:05 pm »
It would also be worth recording where tracer was monitored for, but not detected. Whilst a negative result is not proof that the water does not flow to that point, it is still useful information.

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Re: Dales dye tracing database
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2020, 01:56:29 am »
Hi Prof,

If you want a hand building a web interface for browsing the database, PM me

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Re: Dales dye tracing database
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2020, 12:03:53 pm »
Dear snebbit
Thank you for the offer - not sure where we are going with this part of the project but will certainly keep you in mind. Over 200 traces entered so far.

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Re: Dales dye tracing database
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2020, 11:05:06 am »
I am building the dye tracing database as an Excel Table which is a good way of handling quadrangular data sets. It is also very searchable and sortable. Currently it is on Onedrive. I am still thinking about the best way to share the Table and make it read-only. I will communicate this once I have sorted it out. We have one new result already submitted.

Graham Proudlove

Great to hear this has got off the ground at last. We did try a few years ago after the weekend at Balham. I have quite a few tests from various areas. Where shall I send them to.
Hugh St Lawrence has done some in Barbondale area as well

Andy Hall
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Re: Dales dye tracing database
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2020, 11:35:38 am »
Please send your entries to g.proudlove[at]manchester.ac.uk  (remembering to replace [at] with @)

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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2020, 07:14:03 pm »
I am sure that some dye tests will have been done as part of the building of the of the eastern (Large-Rift etc etc) end of the Three Counties System. Please can we know what they are?

Thanks,,,,,,,,,,Graham

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Re: Dales dye tracing database
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2021, 04:11:16 pm »
Over 300 traces entered so far - many thanks to all who have contributed. Do search out those records and send in the details.
Thanks


Please send your entries to g.proudlove[at]manchester.ac.uk  (remembering to replace [at] with @)

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Re: Dales dye tracing database
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2021, 04:50:30 pm »
Although you've not heard from me yet, I am compiling information over the dark nights for this worthy project

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Re: Dales dye tracing database
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2021, 09:38:35 pm »
Graham and Prof.  Following on from your brilliant presentation at CNCC AGM today if i PM you my email etc would you send me the dye trace detail we spoke of?

Cheers
Tim

 

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