The Old Ruminator
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Caves aren?t outside
JoshW said:Caves aren?t outside
Insert some kind of joke about CRoW
Rob said:More to the point, there's a "caving code" down there?!?
Bob Mehew said:Perhaps some day the minimum number will be one. I would suggest 2 strikes the compromise whilst mobile phones don't work underground (yet).
That is what it states in the 1963 guidelinesmrodoc said:Now I thought the numbers game was that in the event of an incident one person could stay with the casualty and two could go out safely and call the rescue services. Am willing to be corrected of course.
mikem said:It may be copied on CSCC site, but was written by MCR.
& plenty of Mendip cavers don't like sumps...
For most of the above reasons I have found scuba diving on my own more relaxing. All the most serious episodes I have been involved in were when I was diving with other people. I was taught to dive that way way back in1965.PeteHall said:Bob Mehew said:Perhaps some day the minimum number will be one. I would suggest 2 strikes the compromise whilst mobile phones don't work underground (yet).
Personally, I tend to do most of my caving solo, including long trips. I have justified it on the following grounds:
- There is no-one to drop something on you (most frequent cause of near miss in my experience)
- There is no-one to get stuck in front of you blocking the way out (yes, that's happened to me too, no names in case you read this Kev )
- You are much more aware of danger alone, there is no false sense of security in numbers.
- There is never any pressure to do something you aren't comfortable with doing.
- You don't have to wait for anyone at every obstacle, decreasing waiting time, cold and fatigue.
- You can cave at your own pace.
- You don't have to share your Mars bar.
All the above mean you are much less likely to have an accident alone, albeit an accident would have more serious consequences.
It's standard risk assessment, likelihood vs consequence...
That is what it states in the 1963 guidelinesmrodoc said:Now I thought the numbers game was that in the event of an incident one person could stay with the casualty and two could go out safely and call the rescue services. Am willing to be corrected of course.
Fjell said:mikem said:It may be copied on CSCC site, but was written by MCR.
& plenty of Mendip cavers don't like sumps...
As an 18 year-old I was led to believe it was a necessary beginners trip. Through the sumps and and then up that Pencil thing with the chain at the bottom. I didn?t want to do sump 4, it had worms in it, and that just didn?t seem quite right.