Thunder Shaft!

zomjon

Member
Hi, just wondered if anyone on here has ever descended Thunder Shaft in Slaley Sough, OG and myself were just debating why we have never bothered ourselves.
 

owd git

Active member
zomjon said:
Hi, just wondered if anyone on here has ever descended Thunder Shaft in Slaley Sough, OG and myself were just debating why we have never bothered ourselves.
Yet! (y)
O. G.
 

Big Jim

Member
Go and drop a rock down it and you'll see why..... .  I seem to rememeber someone telling me that they had been down years ago but nowt of great interest. Think its flooded at bottom hence the loud echo.  But sod it, go anyway and report back (y)

J
 

AR

Well-known member
If we're talking about the deep winze in Slaley Sough, it has been explored and it's blind - see Flindall and Hayes' article on the mines North of the Via Gellia, PDMHS bulletin 4:6 I think.
 

JAM

New member
So any idea of depth anyone?  Have we got any reliable anchor point in there or is bolting gear required? 
 

AR

Well-known member
Without having the relevant PDMHS bulleting to hand, I think it was recorded as somewhere in the 150' region, going to either water or a load of gungy toadstone clay dependant on weather conditions with nothing going off it. I don't recall seeing anything to rig off at the top but it's a while since I was last in there.
 
The reference to the article about this level (properly called Bonsall Leys No. 2 Level) is:
Flindall, R.B., and Hayes, A.J., 1971. The Adit Workings on the North Side of the Via Gellia. P.D.M.H.S. Bull. Vol. 4 Pt.6 pp429-450.
I wrote that article and have recently been compiling a report on the history of mining in that area.

The 150 feet deep turn (called by the spar miner Cyril Maddocks in the 1950s the Thunder Shaft) was on Flixen Rake but it was always blind (even when it was first sunk) and there is nothing to be discovered really in the level at all. I wrongly stated in the article that the raises no doubt went in stages up through the toadstone to the surface but they would be blocked by collapse. In fact, the raises lead only into short trial levels just below the toadstone.

The only air flow in this long level seems to be that originating from a three inch wide open rift in the right wall of the level about 15 feet before the final forefield. The sound of falling water can be heard faintly in the distance (or at least it could in the 1970s), which is surprising because the overlying toadstone keeps all that strata very dry. There must be some sort of fault to allow the water to penetrate. There is a moderate airflow into the rift in summer. I cannot understand why the miners did not investigate this as it could lead to some sort of vein or cave. This point is about 250 feet below the surface of Bonsall Leys.
 

zomjon

Member
History Trog, I've heard the noise at that point about 6 yrs ago and remember being totally baffled by it - you've just solved a mystery in my head that I think about every time I visit.
 
I only noticed the noise of the water because I was by myself on one visit. It may only be a slight trickle of water. I did look in the roadside entrance in the Via Gellia (Bonsall Leys No. 1 Level) to judge if that could be the exit point for the spring but could not detect any airflow associated with the water. I am not an expert on hydrogeology.
There may have been an old shaft at that point through the toadstone on Parsons Rake (the vein followed in the last part of Bonsall Leys No. 2 Level), which may have let the water through the toadstone.
I should have made it clear in my earlier posting that there were old (18th century) shafts from the surface intersected by the No. 2 Level at the end of the entrance crosscut and also near the Thunder Shaft but they are so thoroughly blocked somewhere that there is hardly any airflow from them. There were also several raises made from No. 2 Level to test the veins just below the toadstone but none amounts to very much.
 

JAM

New member
AR said:
Without having the relevant PDMHS bulleting to hand, I think it was recorded as somewhere in the 150' region, going to either water or a load of gungy toadstone clay dependant on weather conditions with nothing going off it. I don't recall seeing anything to rig off at the top but it's a while since I was last in there.


Cheers dude. Still interesting to bob down......  Probably a poor choice of words, but I'll leave it as it is.  ;)
 
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